Option tree item count wrong: True, and as you say, long-standing. I have never known what I should do with that one though. I'll explain more after I address your other issue.
Random speech stoppage in option tree: I have not seen this, but I have seen where it takes several seconds for JAWS to announce the item you arrowed to. This is because Skype itself can take some time to finish redrawing the screen after you switch to a new item, and JAWS has to wait for that to finish. If you arrow down and hear no speech after, say, ten seconds (which is of course ridiculously long to wait, but just for testing...), please let me know. About the option tree item count: That "tree" is not a normal treeView. To quote a message I wrote to this list on February 4 of this year: There are headers separating the options into logical groups. The way Skype counts the items has varied from time to time, but for various reasons, I did not see a clear winner on how it should best be done, within the constraints of the control. For example, the control does not allow focus on the headers that separate sections. Visually, the currently selected section is the only one that's open; the others are closed automatically. Think of it like a treeView where Windows just keeps you at level 1 all the time, hopping over dividers as necessary. So there is not really a clear "best" way to handle this one. I do have some ideas though, the best so far being to speak the position and count based on the number of level-1 nodes, which equals the number of nodes you can arrow to. JAWS also should say the parent node's name as part of the current node's name I think. I am writing this in the Known Issues list on my web site so it shouldn't get lost. Btw, PageUp and PageDown will jump you from group to group in that tree. I just now noticed this. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 08:44:08AM -0700, Jim Grimsby JR. wrote: Ok index counts in the options tree view is bogus this has been a problem for some time. also while moving through this control jaws will just stop speaking at random and I have to set focus away and then refocus the control. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:skypeenglish-bounces at emissives.com] On Behalf Of Doug Lee Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:39 AM To: screen access software with skype Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] skype 4.1 scripts! TMyselfControl: That is not a button actually; it is a whole collection of controls, which are represented by distinct MSAA elements. There is therefore no one class I could assign to it in skype.jcf. Status line not at bottom: This is by design I'm afraid. Skype put that inside the contact list area. As such, it is only visible if the Contact list is visible, so if you switch to the Conversation list, with Ctrl+2 with scripts or Alt+2 without them, the number of people online will not show even for sighted users. (Technically, the online user count seems to be in the conversation window parenting both the contact and conversation lists, but when I switch to the conversation list, the History list appears and replaces the user count.) Online Skype user count not accessible: True, it has no MSAA entry. It is findable with the JAWS cursor though, which means the text at least is accessible to us. I did not consider this a high priority at all compared to the other issues we have, so though I think I mentioned it to Skype developers once, I have not pursued this. JAWSKey+PageDown does not read status line: True, but again, I never thought of this as a priority, particularly since it is no longer really a status line and is not always visible. And I do appreciate the feedback. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 08:10:33AM -0700, Jim Grimsby JR. wrote: The Class TMyselfControl Probably should be added to the skype jcf file as a button. The status line command does not report anything useful in the main skype window. I would think that this though would be something you spoke to skype about. The status line is above the shop button um status lines should be at the bottom of windows! So far real good though. Please don't think I am posting to wine or complain I am attempting to provide feedback. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:skypeenglish-bounces at emissives.com] On Behalf Of Jim Grimsby JR. Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:01 AM To: 'screen access software with skype' Subject: [Skypeenglish] skype 4.1 scripts! The title in the installer is wrong. It reads Setup - JAWS Scripts For Skype 4.0 It should read Setup - JAWS Scripts For Skype 4.1 Or 4.x. Hth Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To access tutorials and other goodies go to http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html thanks and have a wonderful day. _______________________________________________ Skypeenglish mailing list Skypeenglish at emissives.com http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To access tutorials and other goodies go to http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html thanks and have a wonderful day. _______________________________________________ Skypeenglish mailing list Skypeenglish at emissives.com http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com -- Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org http://www.dlee.org SSB BART Group doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com http://www.ssbbartgroup.com "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To access tutorials and other goodies go to http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html thanks and have a wonderful day. _______________________________________________ Skypeenglish mailing list Skypeenglish at emissives.com http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To access tutorials and other goodies go to http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html thanks and have a wonderful day. _______________________________________________ Skypeenglish mailing list Skypeenglish at emissives.com http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com -- Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org http://www.dlee.org SSB BART Group doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com http://www.ssbbartgroup.com "There's no limit to what a man can do or where he can go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit." 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