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Paul email: paul96cars at gmail.com or brl.cents at gmail.com skype: brlcents > ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Hannah" <hannahday1989 at googlemail.com >To: "screen access software with skype" <skypeenglish at emissives.com >Date sent: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 17:23:46 +0100 >Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Important! Information ontheSkype4.1"Screen Reader Not Detected" Problem >oh right wow cool. thanks for that. i may try it. so what can you delete >then. sorry you may see i'm dum. but i'm new to skype. >well i'm not but i've not used it much untill now >chat soon hannah >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Doug Lee" <dgl at dlee.org >To: "screen access software with skype" <skypeenglish at emissives.com >Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 4:55 PM >Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Important! Information on theSkype4.1"Screen >Reader Not Detected" Problem >> If you want to delete an item from the Conversation list, and you are >> not running scripts, press Space to select the current item, then Del >> to delete it. This also works with scripts, but with scripts running, >> you don't have to press Space before Del, because the scripts do it >> for you. You still can, though. >> On Sat, Jun 06, 2009 at 05:04:01PM +0200, Clare Page wrote: >>> Hi! >>> Thanks, Doug, for explaining how to delete items from the conversations >>> list in Skype without scripts. But will those instructions work with >>> scripts? I use Skype 4.1 Beta with revision 41A of the JAWS scripts. >>> If the method of deleting items from the conversations list is different >>> when we have scripts, please let us know, just in case I or anyone else >>> wants to do that with Skype 4.1. >>> Bye for now! >>>> From Clare >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <dgl at dlee.org >>> To: "screen access software with skype" <skypeenglish at emissives.com >>> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 6:18 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Important! Information on the Skype4.1"Screen >>> Reader Not Detected" Problem >>>> The Delete key will delete entries from that list, but you have to >>>> select one or more entries to delete first. I know this is unusual >>>> for a list, because usually just arrowing through a list will select >>>> entries. In Skype, the selected entry is the one shown in the Skype >>>> window, at least in Default view. If Skype selected an entry every >>>> time you hit an arrow key, navigation through that list would be very >>>> slow. >>>> So if you're not using scripts, delete a Conversation, or Inbox, entry >>>> by pressing Space to select it, then Del to get rid of it. >>>> On Sat, Jun 06, 2009 at 12:11:39AM -0400, jason wrote: >>>>> Oh ok I understand what you mean, but they shouldn't still keep showing >>>>> after you hit the delete key and removed them. >>>>> Sincerely, >>>>> Jason known as Blind Fury >>>>> windowslive contact kb3icc at msn.com >>>>> skype contact kb3icc >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <dgl at dlee.org >>>>> To: "screen access software with skype" <skypeenglish at emissives.com >>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 12:00 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Important! Information on the Skype >>>>> 4.1"Screen Reader Not Detected" Problem >>>>>> Keep in mind that "history" and "conversation list" are two different >>>>>> things. The History page, which is accessed by Ctrl+8 with scripts >>>>>> running and Alt+3 otherwise, is what's managed by the Keep History For >>>>>> option. >>>>>> The conversation list, accessed by Ctrl+2 with scripts or Alt+2 >>>>>> without, is sort of like an inbox. Just as with an inbox, things >>>>>> never leave that list until you delete them yourself. You will only >>>>>> see one entry for any one person in that list though. >>>>>> A concrete example: I send you a chat line, a voicemail, a call, and >>>>>> a file, then Joe sends you a file and a chat line. In Skype 3.8, that >>>>>> would be six events. In Skype 4.1, that would be six History list >>>>>> entries, but you said not to keep history, so you might not see >>>>>> anything in that list. But in Skype 4.1, you still will get two, not >>>>>> six but two, entries in your Conversation list, or Inbox: one for me, >>>>>> and one for Joe. >>>>>> On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 11:42:33PM -0400, jason wrote: >>>>>>> another problem is deleting history. We should have the ability to >>>>>>> delete our history if we don't want to keep it. I have my >>>>>>> options set to >>>>>>> never keep history and clear cookies but every time I log on to >>>>>>> skype, it >>>>>>> keeps bringing old conversations up in to my list which those >>>>>>> happened a >>>>>>> week ago. It says that it is supposed to clear history and ookies on >>>>>>> exit. That is one of the choices in the options menu. I hope >>>>>>> there is a >>>>>>> solution that we can get rid of all of the history, because you can >>>>>>> do >>>>>>> that in 3.8. >>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>> Jason known as Blind Fury >>>>>>> windowslive contact kb3icc at msn.com >>>>>>> skype contact kb3icc >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <dgl at dlee.org >>>>>>> To: <skypeenglish at emissives.com>; <gui-talk at nfbnet.org >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 2:54 PM >>>>>>> Subject: [Skypeenglish] Important! Information on the Skype 4.1 >>>>>>> "Screen >>>>>>> Reader Not Detected" Problem >>>>>>>> I doubt this happens to very many people, but I have already noticed >>>>>>>> that it has happened to some, and the problem is serious enough in >>>>>>>> its >>>>>>>> effects to warrant the "Important!" subject line attention-getter. >>>>>>>> Note that this only applies to users of Skype 4.1 beta, the one >>>>>>>> released in May of 2009. If you run Skype 3.8 or Skype 4.0, you >>>>>>>> should not see the problem discussed below. >>>>>>>> The following information may apply to you if you have ever been >>>>>>>> running Skype 4.1 beta, released in May of 2009, and encountered any >>>>>>>> of the following: >>>>>>>> 1. Inability to arrow through the contact list, the conversation >>>>>>>> list, >>>>>>>> or any other Skype list control. >>>>>>>> 2. JAWS reading huge volumes of information on arrow keys or tab, >>>>>>>> such as most or all of one of those lists. >>>>>>>> 3. Alt+numbers and Alt+arrows in a conversation window saying "Not >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> a chat window" even though you really are in one. >>>>>>>> 4. For BX users, BX saying "unknown object" for a great many >>>>>>>> portions >>>>>>>> of Skype's interface. >>>>>>>> Causes of the above problems include doing any of the following >>>>>>>> things while Skype 4.1 beta is running: >>>>>>>> 1. Unloading and reloading JAWS. (This may cause the problem but >>>>>>>> does >>>>>>>> not always do so.) >>>>>>>> 2. Changing to a different JAWS version by unloading one and then >>>>>>>> loading another. >>>>>>>> 3. Running Microsoft Narrator and then closing it while Skype is >>>>>>>> still running. >>>>>>>> 4. Playing with another screen reader and shutting it down while >>>>>>>> Skype >>>>>>>> is running. >>>>>>>> If you never do any of those things, you should never run into this >>>>>>>> problem. >>>>>>>> I have written up a detailed description of this issue, including >>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>> to do about it if you encounter it, at my web site, >>>>>>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype/ >>>>>>>> The direct URL to the information page for this issue is >>>>>>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype/sr_not_detected.php >>>>>>>> In summary, the above user actions can cause this Skype 4.1 beta to >>>>>>>> lose track of the fact that a screen reader is running, which in >>>>>>>> turn >>>>>>>> causes it to stop providing all accessibility information until it >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> restarted. Future Skype 4 releases are expected to improve >>>>>>>> significantly on this situation. The Skype developers and >>>>>>>> management >>>>>>>> are aware of this problem. It escaped notice during the testing of >>>>>>>> the Skype 4.1 beta release because unloading and reloading a screen >>>>>>>> reader is not a regular enough occurrence to have come to mind as a >>>>>>>> necessary part of the testing process, either for them or for me. >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org http://www.dlee.org >>>>>>>> SSB BART Group doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com >>>>>>>> http://www.ssbbartgroup.com >>>>>>>> "I before E, except after C, or when sounded like A, as in neighbor >>>>>>>> and weigh, except for when weird foreign concierges seize neither >>>>>>>> leisure nor science from the height of society." >>>>>>>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for >>>>>>>> the latest version of skype go to >>>>>>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>>>>>>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>>>>>>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>>>>>>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>>>>>>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>>>>>>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>>>>>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for >>>>>>> the latest version of skype go to >>>>>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>>>>>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>>>>>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>>>>>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>>>>>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>>>>>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org >>>>>> http://www.dlee.org >>>>>> SSB BART Group doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com >>>>>> http://www.ssbbartgroup.com >>>>>> No one alive is beyond hope; every second of life is a chance. >>>>>> (08/29/02) >>>>>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for >>>>>> the latest version of skype go to >>>>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>>>>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>>>>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>>>>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>>>>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>>>>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>>>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for >>>>> the latest version of skype go to >>>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>>>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>>>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>>>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>>>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>>>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>>> -- >>>> Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org http://www.dlee.org >>>> SSB BART Group doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com >>>> http://www.ssbbartgroup.com >>>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for >>>> the latest version of skype go to >>>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >>> latest version of skype go to >>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >> -- >> Doug Lee dgl at dlee.org http://www.dlee.org >> SSB BART Group doug.lee at ssbbartgroup.com >> http://www.ssbbartgroup.com >> "The most exhausting thing in life is being insincere." >> - Anne Morrow Lindbergh {American Author} >> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >> latest version of skype go to >> http://www.dlee.org/skype >> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >> thanks and have a wonderful day. >> _______________________________________________ >> Skypeenglish mailing list >> Skypeenglish at emissives.com >> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to >http://www.dlee.org/skype >To access tutorials and other goodies go to >http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >thanks and have a wonderful day. >_______________________________________________ >Skypeenglish mailing list >Skypeenglish at emissives.com >http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com
