Well bruce the reasoning they are using is laim.  Auto hot key works with
windows 7 you can use all of these as prefixes and even override the windows
default if you like.  Jaws window-eyes still allows for them to be used so
why not skype.  The reasoning here escapes me.  

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:skypeenglish-bounces at emissives.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Toews
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 8:34 PM
To: screen access software with skype
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Question about Skype 4.1

I completely agree with you and Sarah on this one. I had some very nice 
shortcuts defined for Skype, they weren't harming anyone, and to be denied 
the use of themis, as Sarah said, backwards and a whole bunch of other 
things.

Bruce

On Wed, 17 Jun 2009, Valiant8086 wrote:

> Hi.
> Windows uses win key for a few things. like windows+e, windows+u,
windows+d, windows+m, windows+t, windows+r, windows+x, windows+b, Windows+l,
etc. Still, it ought to be possible to use windows keys with other modifiers
also. I mean I don't think MS should stop that. Like windows+ctrl+down
arrow.
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: sarah alawami
>  To: screen access software with skype ; Doug Lee
>  Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:59 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Question about Skype 4.1
>
>
>  I'm risking a stray in subject thread here so I'll make this brief!
>  Why would MS not want the win key for more shortcut options? this to
>  me seems stupid and backword and nonproductive to me.
>
>  I'm done ranting now.
>
>  S
>
>  On 5/27/09, Doug Lee <dgl at dlee.org> wrote:
>  > My information is that the removal of the WinKey is permanent and
>  > forced by Microsoft, because Windows 7 apparently forbids use of that
>  > key for shortcuts.  This annoyed me too, but it is apparently a
>  > Microsoft rule and, as such, will probably affect a number of
>  > applications.
>  >
>  > Your problem with the text input window going invisible is addressed
>  > in version 4.1a of the scripts, which I just posted today and
>  > announced on this list.  That particular change failed to make it into
>  > my release notes though.
>  >
>  > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:26:23PM +0300, Kostadin Kolev wrote:
>  >> Hello,
>  >>
>  >> I'm using Skype 4.1 Beta with the scripts "40c" with no problems (at
>  >> least for now). But be aware, that the Skype developers have decided
(at
>  >> least it looks so) to remove the "WinKey" from the "Hotkeys" options
for
>  >> Skype 4.1. This means, that we can no longer use the "WinKey" in our
>  >> hotkeys combinations for Skype (if using v4.1). Hope that this is only
>  >> temporarily, because otherwise a lot of key conflicts might occur
before
>  >> we can set our hotkeys for Skype.
>  >> And a question (maybe a bug report even) addressed to Doug: The
>  >> keystroke CTRL+4 for focusing to the edit field (where we type our
chat
>  >> message), doesn't work properly. Actually, it doesn't work most of the
>  >> time (maybe even never - I'm not sure though). When I press it, JAWS
>  >> says "Window not visible". The chat typing field is there though - I
can
>  >> see it and I can go to it by pressing TAB. I'm using the compact view,
>  >> but I just tested it - it doesn't work in standard view even - it says
>  >> the same - "Window not visible". This bug started to appear since
there
>  >> was a change to the chat typing field regarding a problem with the
>  >> typing cursor not being focused in the message typing field when
>  >> focusing on the specific conversation window (at least I think so).
Can
>  >> you confirm this issue? Thanks!
>  >>
>  >> Best wishes!
>  >> Kostadin Kolev
>  >>
>  >> On 27.5.2009 ?. 20:35 ?., Clare Page wrote:
>  >>> Hi!
>  >>> I was wondering, will the JAWS scripts some of us now use for Skype
4.0
>  >>> work with Skype 4.1?
>  >>> If anyone has an answer to this question, please let us know.
>  >>> Bye for now, and happy skyping!
>  >>>> From Clare
>  >>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To  access scripts for
the
>  >>> latest version of skype go to
>  >>> http://www.dlee.org/skype
>  >>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to
>  >>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
>  >>> thanks and have a wonderful day.
>  >>>
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>  >> latest version of skype go to
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