On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Roy T. Fielding <field...@gbiv.com> wrote:
> On May 12, 2009, at 12:40 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
>
>> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Roy T. Fielding <field...@gbiv.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On May 11, 2009, at 12:03 PM, Felix Meschberger wrote:
>>>
>>>> Carsten and I have been reasoning about the releases in the future,
>>>> mainly the ones for end-users who just want to grab a binary and fire it
>>>> off....
>>
>>> Apache only releases source code packages.  Those other things you build
>>> are not releases -- they are binaries that individuals build and upload.
>>
>> How about naming those things "binary packages" instead of "releases"?
>
> A rose is still a rose ...
>
>> We can still use the same process for releasing them, and include a
>> disclaimer that they're not official releases and provided without
>> warranty etc..
>
> I don't see how we can "use the same process for releasing them" when
> part of that process requires comparison of the source code with what
> is in subversion.  An ASF release is a group decision based on peer
> review, and I don't think anyone giving +1s on the binaries are
> actually doing JVM decompiles and source-level comparisons to verify
> the contents don't include some extra trojan horse.  Running the tests
> is not sufficient.
>
> That's why the ASF does not vote on binaries.  I'd rather not make it
> look like we are.

Ok, I see your point. I suggest that we clarify how we do that next
time we have a concrete case.

-Bertrand

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