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Jamie Honan wrote:

> I understand your frustration, Terry, in that you feel (and you
> have) put a lot of volunteer work into SLUG, feeling that your
> enthusiasm is not reciprocated.

This is wrong and off beam.

I resigned from the SLUG committee and stopped all work for SLUG
because I found my time, and the time of others was being wasted
by other members of the Slug committee.

Basically, SLUG committee people largely failed to realise that
once in the position, they have a duty to fulfill the role for
which they have been elected.

Firstly people rejected having email discussions, then nothing
was done about regular meetings. So we fell into a defacto way of
making decisions by email.

The meant that discussion largely took place between 3-4 people.
Which is pretty normal really in most organisation committees.

My attitude is that an organisation is made up of members who
show their committment by paying a membership fee and they elect
a committee to run their organisation affairs/activites.

The committee can then make decisions. Committees have a thing
call quorum where a majority of the committee must be present for
a decision to be legal and binding. It is easy to achieve that in
email discussions if people participate.

It helps to have communal consensus, but some decisions can not
wait the time for that to evolve and sometimes a majority
decision is needed.

However, you Jamie, were not happy to work with the committee. If
Grahame and I agreed with your requests, then it was okay.

If we disagreed, or you disagreed with one of our suggestions,
then you insisted the FULL committee decide. Okay, that is fine,
but not to have to wait until hell freezes over in the hope that
all the other committee members will read their email and
respond.

History - one member disappeared after 2 months, one's job takes
him away for weeks at a time and another two have busy work and
some times do not respond to email for weeks.

If the committee didn't agree with you Jamie, you then said we
needed to ask the members. 

The issue of sponsorship was the final straw. This had been
discussed a number of time since PC-IT-99 and Grahame had been
okayed, in the usual way, to make a formal offer to a company
that wanted to give SLUG money to do the stuff it does.

What transpired was you, Jamie, objecting to i's & t's, demanded
that Grahame retract the offer after giving him the go ahead.
Then with less than one month to go to Linux Expo, everything had
to go back to members.

This was a complete and utter waste of someone's valuable time
and the final straw for me.

For the first time in 28+ years of working with organisations, I
resigned immediately. I've always believed in giving a lot of
time to organisations I'm involved it. It is something I enjoy
doing. 

I don't seek payment for it and never have, but all fruit and
chocolate cakes will not be rejected {:-). I'm not someone who
wants to stand up front and be thanked. I prefer the spontaneous
thank yous I've received over the years.



People who stand for the SLUG committee need to realise they have
a responsibility to carry out the duties. It is not just enough
to be on the committee, you really do need a role/job to help
things along.

Time requirements are one day a month at a meeting or a couple of
hours each week for email.

SLUG also needs members who are prepared to help. The real role
of the committee is to co-ordinate and manage. Without workers,
SLUG can do nothing.

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