On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, Aussie wrote:
> > Charlie's point - and it's a valid one - is that you spout anti-spam
> > email addresses - then add spam to the end of your message. You're a
> > hypocrite.
>
> So any advertising is to be regarded as spam?
Where it is unwelcome or uninvited, yes.
> > Complete and utter garbage. Your signature is an unsolicited attempt to
> > make yourself money, or someone else, money. It lands in my inbox in
> > messages I have no control over {except unsubscribing from the
> > information list I'm connected to, which I don't want to do} which
> > appears in every message you post.
>
> If I change my signature to show my business name, address etc, will
> that still be regarded as advertising? After all, I run the business,
> getting my business name out to the public is what advertising is about
> for me. If I advertise my business through my signature, then I am also
> guilty of making an unsolicited attempt to make myself money (it's my
> business after all), except I'll be making a lot more money than with
> any internet advertising program.
Why not, go right ahead. It's information which is relevant about you.
> It could be argued that all that is required to contact anyone on this
> list is their email address, something that is (or should be) in the
> headers of each message, therefore, no signature should be used at all.
If somebody was selling a 17" monitor for $200 on the list, I would be
scrumaging for more of their details and would be calling them at work,
etc :)
> > You, on the other hand, are touting some get rich quick scheme - a not
> > so acceptable one.
>
> Get rich quick?? I can think of far faster ways to get rich! If I
> wanted to get rich, I would hardly be earning a measly 50c an hour.
Feel free to do it then :)
> > Try posting with a signature like that into alt.sysadmin.recovery or
> > alt.tech-support.recovery and watch them apply a hefty LART to you post
> > haste. Hell, pick ANY tech newsgroup or mailing list and try it - you'll
> > be kicked out so fast your head'll spin.
>
> Gee, strange thing, out of the 10 or 12 "tech" mailing lists I
> subscribe to, only this one has claimed my sig is spam.
Shows how much those 10 or 12 techs care about the technology. I think
you'll find most do care. Most of this list turned a blind eye to it
until one decided to comment and then everybody agreed that it was wrong.
It has annoyed me, and if Charlie hadn't mentioned something, I would
have.
> > Today's "standards" are made up by clowns who are only in the net for a
> > quick buck, and who have no clue or regard for nettiqute - nor have any
> > desire to learn.
>
> If we are going to start referring to proper nettiquite, maybe we had
> better do it correctly. No more sigs over 2 lines of 40 chars.
I think 2-5 lines @ 78 characters is acceptable by my picky standards..
Anything beyond that I find a little annoying.
Andrew.
(Yes, sometimes I use my .sig to mention things like events which I
organise voluntarily for the community. Maybe even that is walking on
the fence/line, but I justify that later.)
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