On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Michael Lake wrote:

> John Wiltshire wrote:
> > From: Matthew Dalton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > .....
> > > Unfortunately the html for that presentation crashes Netscape
> > > (the site says it's optimised for IE).
> > > If you still want to read it, I've put a more basic html version here:
> > > http://www.pnc.com.au/~msdalton/chase-ppt/
> > 
> > Aarrgghh!!!
> > $#%*&#%$ Microsoft proprietary format files.  Powerpoint did that for me.
> > It should be a bit better now.  Sorry about that - I was a bit rushed when I
> > published it and never got back to fixing it.
> 
> The IE optimised (or Netscape DE-optimised !) also crashed
> my netscape and concurrent netscape mail session with a Bus
> Error. This raises the point that irrespective of what John
> had in that file Netscape 4.7 should not crash like that. I
> never got a chance to even look at the code (w3m doesn't
> crash but using \ to look at the code does not work). Opera
> does not crash - but it just shows an empty set of frames
> with an index.
> 
> What actually is the problem in the code?
> Netscape should be able to say "Sorry can't display this
> because ....".

The code looks like the following:

 <v:formulas>
   <v:f eqn="if lineDrawn pixelLineWidth 0"/>
   <v:f eqn="sum @0 1 0"/>
   <v:f eqn="sum 0 0 @1"/>
   <v:f eqn="prod @2 1 2"/>
   <v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelWidth"/>
   <v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelHeight"/>
   <v:f eqn="sum @0 0 1"/>
   <v:f eqn="prod @6 1 2"/>
   <v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelWidth"/>
   <v:f eqn="sum @8 21600 0"/>
   <v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelHeight"/>
   <v:f eqn="sum @10 21600 0"/>
  </v:formulas>
  <v:path o:extrusionok="f" gradientshapeok="t" o:connecttype="rect"/>
  <o:lock v:ext="edit" aspectratio="t"/>
 </v:shapetype><v:shape id="_x0000_s33794" type="#_x0000_t75" style='position:absolute;
  left:60pt;top:84.375pt;width:600pt;height:371.25pt'>
  <v:imagedata src="slide0022_image002.png" o:title="Chase Card 800x500"/>
 </v:shape><![if !vml]><img border=0 v:shapes="_x0000_s33794"
 src="slide0022_image003.jpg" style='position:absolute;top:15.75%;left:8.42%;
 width:83.33%;height:68.75%' width="445" height="275"><![endif]><v:shapetype 
id="_x0000_t202"
  coordsize="21600,21600" o:spt="202" path="m0,0l0,21600,21600,21600,21600,0xe">
  <v:stroke joinstyle="miter"/>
  <v:path gradientshapeok="t" o:connecttype="rect"/>
 </v:shapetype><v:shape id="_x0000_s33795" type="#_x0000_t202" 
style='position:absolute;
  left:498pt;top:24pt;width:175.125pt;height:36pt;mso-wrap-style:none;
  v-text-anchor:top-baseline' filled="f" fillcolor="#f90 [4]" stroked="f"
  strokecolor="white [1]">
  <v:fill color2="blue [0]"/>
  <v:shadow color="black [2]"/>
  <v:textbox style='mso-fit-shape-to-text:t'/>
 </v:shape><v:shape id="_x0000_s33796" type="#_x0000_t202" style='position:absolute;
  left:42pt;top:480pt;width:165.75pt;height:36pt;mso-wrap-style:none;
  v-text-anchor:top-baseline' filled="f" fillcolor="#f90 [4]" stroked="f"
  strokecolor="white [1]">


It is XML, defined by the following:

<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml"
xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"
xmlns:p="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:powerpoint"
xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">


MS is gone ballistic in the race to be the first APP
provider with XML-based storage. Consequently, all Office 200
apps can store things in XML format. Thus you get abominations
like the above that only work with IE 5.0+ .... but I suppose
today's abomination is tomorrow's standard.

> Does Mozilla handle the non-standard code?

Mozilla does XML, don't it?


> Unfortunately, as far as the general public perceives it,
> apps that crash reflect unfavorably on Linux.

I presume the Netscrapes that are crashing get into an
unrecoverable tangle when fed XML like the above :-(


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