From: Jill Rowling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Regarding the PC RAM theft issue, I can only say YES has >happened recently >and YES you need physical security. It's not going to go away. Physical security is a necessity for many things, including theft. Remember if people can open the case, they can reset your CMOS, boot from a rescue floppy, copy out /etc/passwd, /etc/mirror etc. and lay trojans all over the place to try to capture a root password. Basically, if your machines aren't physically secure then the machine itself must be considered untrusted even if it is running a trusted OS. John Wiltshire -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug