To clear up matter a little: I use gvim on windows, it has incredible depth of syntax highlighting. I use cygnus tools on windows, I use command line a lot. You should see those Windows boffins trying to figure out how I do du to get the largest directory so quickly. I work around the SOE by a batch file to fix my path without affecting "their" setup. The interesting thing is the setup program to upgrade cygnus is exceptionally easy, I assume it is a relative of aptget. Is there a tool similar to (or even) aptget for RedHat without paying for RedHat support? Ken du -k | sort -n -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug