On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 16:57, Perry, David J wrote:
> I was given some figures by the
> Dept of Workplace Relations & Small Business on hits to the ABR site
> (http://www.abr.business.gov.au/(ohvqti55efjlsyuiaog4zbal)/WebProcessEngine.
> aspx) in Jan 2002.  
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> Obviously this website is very "businessy" and this survey may not be a fair
> measure of the use of Linux, but it still makes it hard for a government IT
> person to put together a business case to make their sites Linux friendly.

I visited this site and the javascripts, etc are very Windows/Microsoft
based, so it is no suprise they only have 0.23% visit rate. 

>From the above site:
" Technical Tips 
 
  To run the online transaction requires Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.0
or greater or Netscape Navigator 4.06 or greater. Earlier versions of
these browsers may encounter javascript and other errors. Please go to
the Australian Business Register Browser Requirements page if you need
to download a new version."

  Mac users with any browser version of Internet Explorer may encounter
problems. See the Australian Business Register Technical Problems page
for help. "

I couldn't use Konqueror (with Java, umm, 1.2 I think) to register for
an ABN, but I could use Mozilla (ORC1 I think it is).

>makes it hard for a government IT person to put together a business
>case to make their sites Linux friendly.

Why can't a government IT person simply state that there are standards
for HTML and Java and any government-created website should comply to
those standards.

It would be nice if the general public could slowly come to the
understanding that parts of the IT industry have become mature enough to
actually create and use standards, for over THIRTY YEARS, and the whole
thing is not held together by what some web monkey coughed up after a
long lunch.

If Microsoft decide that all versions of IE would now display webpages
upside down, would the government (or anyone else) demand that everyone
stand on their head to browse the internet?

Cheers,
  Malcolm V.

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