> Question One:  Do people agree with this?  If tomorrow all 
> instances of 'ftpd' were magically changed to 'sshd', would we 
> have all the functionality we wanted, but with improved security?

Could windows users participate? Unix-to-unix would be fine. I know
there is putty for ssh on windows but the associated tools for scp and
sftp are much harder to use.

If we had a good gui for all platforms, then it would possibly spread.
Perhaps there is a good cross platform gui language that could be used
for such? ;-)

In principal I completely agree and use scp over ftp, I have clients
however that cannot make the leap due to large numbers of _their clients
only just grasping ftp in a gui..

JMHO

Stu

> Question Two:  Am I just catching up with last Thursday?  Are there
> already ideas/actions/discussions/efforts/people/projects working to 
> assist this transition?   

No that I know of.


Stu

On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 19:34, Tom wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> The recent 'ftp' related threads keep making me think
> of a (I believe) Doc Searls statement from Linux Journal,
> to the effect "It is immoral to teach new Linux users how 
> to set up an ftp daemon/site."  (Sorry, I'm too lazy to dig 
> through back issues for the exact quote.)  The idea, as I
> interpret it, is that everyone should use 'ssh' instead
> of ftp. (I claim that this is a common Mick Bauer theme in LJ 
> too.)
> 
> 
> Question One:  Do people agree with this?  If tomorrow all 
> instances of 'ftpd' were magically changed to 'sshd', would we 
> have all the functionality we wanted, but with improved security?
> 
> 
> If so, the obvious and unavoidable obstacle to conversion is 
> the gargantuan inertia from having *so* *many* ftp sites 
> currently running.  If so, I'm interested in this
> (bizarrely enough) because IMHO it would be a huge societal 
> productivity gain to have *everyone* use 'ssh' and have 'ftp' 
> go extinct.  (We would place ftp on a pedestal of honor in the 
> history books, of course.)
>  
> Toward that end, in my head I've been playing with (hopefully) 
> quick, easy, simple, low tech ideas/solutions, intended to reduce 
> the time it takes for a general, societal, worldwide ftp-to-ssh
> conversion.
> 
> 
> Question Two:  Am I just catching up with last Thursday?  Are there
> already ideas/actions/discussions/efforts/people/projects working to 
> assist this transition?   
> 
> 
> (As mentioned above, the ideas are simple.  However, explaining 
> *why* I think these simple steps would help would make this
> post longer than I wish, so for now I omit the ideas.)
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Tom
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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