I think it's fair to say that I'll pay for what I use.

And the difference between this and spam is that spam can be controlled to
an extent, whereas DDOS as the tech support person described so frankly
quote "there's nothing we can do about it". So I think it's unfair to pass
on both what I don't use, and to provide a service without adequate
protection to customers. It's also clear that usage stats of +1.4gb and
+5.3gb per day, which is hurrendously over a daily average of 35mb over 12
months, is wrong and is being charged to me.

Clearly there is something wrong here.

Due to both the unignorable and enormity of this problem, I am currently
taking steps with PacNet to resolve this issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2002 12:53
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [SLUG] I think I'm being DoS'd - What can I do ?


Then who will pay for it? If they pass it on to you then you will get
charged. If they block it - they will pay... (BTW - I used to work for
optus...)

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Fox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2002 12:35 PM
To: Minh Van Le
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] I think I'm being DoS'd - What can I do ?


Quoting Minh Van Le <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 1st question:
>
> Does blocking the incoming connection with my firewall actually stop me
> from
> paying for downstream data ? I would think not because the firewall has
> to
> receive the packet before denying it ...
>
> I think there's an icmp RFC on this, but haven't taken a look at it.
>

Your end node (firewall) still gets the data. So its still downstream
billable
data. :((

> 2nd question:
>
> Is this just what everybody with a business plan / permanent connection
> & IP
> have to put up with ?

Afraid so, however have you complained to your uplink about what is
occuring.
ie logged something with them to indicate a problem. This might not help
you,
just depends who provides the uplink. When I had bigpond direct permanent
modem
and had this happen to me, calling them was a waste of time as they didn't
have
any procedure in place to deal with it. Surely it would be a matter of
putting
rules on your uplink router and thus stop it hitting your node, thus not
being
charged.

And when the above happens, it appears no one is really willing to help and
you
have to grin and bare it.

grr.
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