On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 19:05, Anthony Wood wrote:
>  On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 08:59:30AM +1000, Anthony Wood wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 10:49:51AM -0400, Bret Comstock Waldow wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 02:36, Del wrote:
> > > >  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > during last weekend, I received several hundred of the the latest ms
> > > > > 'virus' emails, all about 100k, with about 7 different subjects. on Monday,
> > > > > the flow slowed down, just maybe a hundred or so all day, and, I assumed
> > > > > the worst was over, so to speak.
> > > > > 
> > > > > However, between Tuesday and Wed this week, I received in excess of 1,000
> > > > > emails in say 12 hours, and, when I looked at it in the afternoon, I was
> > > > > getting one new mssg every minute.
> > > > 
> > > > I had the same problem.  It was all coming from one machine at
> > > > cornell.edu so I put in a .procmail rule to redirect all mail
> > > > with a header "Received: (from that machine)" line in it back
> > > > to the complaints address I found on their web site (which
> > > > otherwise wasn't responding when I sent them mail asking them
> > > > to fix it).
> > > > 
> > > > After that the flood lasted another 2-3 hours then stopped,
> > > > all by magick.
> > > 
> > > Newbie question here.  Is this definitive?
> > > 
> > > I've read that this virus spoofs the return address, which I understand
> > > to mean the text, but what about the IP chain?
> > > 
> > > I've read in separate articles about "untraceable" spam.  Is this
> > > happening here?
> > > 
> > > If there's a definitive way to be sure of the origin of an email, I'd
> > > like to know that's so, and how to determine it.
> > 
> > When a mail comes into a server, they usually put in a "received"
> > line which nowadays usually reports the IP address of the
> > connecting server and what it says it's hostname is.
> > 
> > You can send a mail message with a few recieved messages of your own like I've 
> > done with this one.
> 
> Sorry, looks like postfix and/or mutt strips it out.  What a responsible program.
> 
> This is what I had:
> 
> > Received: from momandpop.com (cia.whitehouse.gov [4.3.2.1]) by 
> > beast.switchonline.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08CC53B for
> +<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 29 Aug 2003 08:57:54 +1000 (EST)
> 
> 
> > momandpop.com is what the server said it was, cia.whitehouse.gov is the reverse
> > lookup of the actual ip address sent from (4.3.2.1)

Here's one of mine:

Sender:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received:  from LUCKYLZ ([211.154.93.35]) by siaag1af.compuserve.com
(8.12.9/8.12.7/SUN-2.7) with ESMTP id h7SCxV7X003565 for
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 28 Aug 2003 08:59:39 -0400 (EDT)

So, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is spoofed, but the originating IP is correct?  Or
just the reporting server siaag1af.compuserve.com?  Does compuserve take
any steps to verify the included sender IP?

Bret

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