I suggest:

1) Try the command I posted.
2) See if it's ok.
3) Expand the partitions.  I have Partition Magic, but I believe there's
a free software tool to do this as well.

Keep your boot disk handy so you can run "lilo" or fiddle with grub (I
don't think you have to).

Perhaps it works fine.

Cheers,
Bret

On Sun, 2003-12-07 at 08:58, Peter Vogel wrote:
>  Yes, I am trying to make a copy of the disk as you say, but my new disk
> is bigger.  I wonder if that will cause problems with what you suggest? 
> And if that does work, will I be able to increase a partition to utilise
> the bigger disk?  (these are two different issues, I will be happy just
> to have a backup in the first instance).
> 
> On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 08:44:02 +1100
> Bret Comstock Waldow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > What are you trying to do?  "Back up" is too vague, there are lots of
> > approaches, with differing physical requirements.
> > 
> > My backup is a second disk of the same size.  I boot on Tom's RootBoot
> > diskette (so no partitions are mounted) and run:
> >     dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdc bs=16384k
> > and then I go to sleep (my 20G drive takes about 2 hours, 40 minutes).
> > 
> > When it's complete, I can hook up the backup disk and boot on it
> > immediately, with a complete copy of my system, including any partition
> > changes I made in the original plus the boot sector, and it even backs
> > up my Windows 98 install as well.  Everything just works.
> > 
> > Curiously, it kills Windows 2000, even on the original disk (I have no
> > idea how the original Windows 2000 disk partition "knows" it's been
> > backed up, but it is consistently screwed).  Windows 98, on the other
> > hand, is fine with this approach.
> > 
> > I can try any software experiment I want, and if it fails, I'm up and
> > running in 3 minutes again, and remake my backup over night.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Bret
> > 
> > > On Sat, 2003-12-06 at 10:08, Peter Vogel wrote:
> > >  Thanks for the pointer, but I don't think this will do what I need. It
> > > looks like I would need a working system to restore the partitions. I
> > > want to make an whole disk copy so I can put the drive in another
> > > computer, put the whole computer away, and pull it out if my server dies. 
> > > 
> > > Ghost theoretically allows me to put the second drive in teh computer,
> > > boot the Ghost floppy, it copies the disk and that;s that.  But after
> > > doing this GRUB no longer works, and I have been unable to make it work,
> > > there are instructions for doing so but I get error messages which I
> > > don't understand.
> > > 
> > > I need an idiot's version like Ghost but which works with Linux disks.
> > > 
> > > On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:37:36 +1100
> > > Graham Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 09:11, Peter Vogel wrote:
> > > > > I can SAMBA all the files off the Linux box onto my Windows box, but
> > > > > then what?  There must be an equivalent to Ghost that works with Linux...
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Try looking at  http://www.partimage.org/
> > > > 
> > > >  Partition Image is a Linux/UNIX utility which saves partitions in many 
> > > > formats (see below) to an image file. The image file can be compressed in the 
> > > > GZIP/BZIP2 formats to save disk space, and split into multiple files to be 
> > > > copied on removable floppies (ZIP for example), ... Partitions can be saved 
> > > > across the network since version 0.6.0. 
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > 
> > > > Graham Smith
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------
> > > > 
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> > > 
> > > Peter Vogel
> > > ZapTV Pty Ltd
> > > 30 Adeline St, Faulconbridge 2776
> > > Australia
> > > Tel: 02  4751 8735
> > > Fax: 02 4751 2601
> > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> Peter Vogel
> ZapTV Pty Ltd
> 30 Adeline St, Faulconbridge 2776
> Australia
> Tel: 02  4751 8735
> Fax: 02 4751 2601
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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