On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 06:41:15PM +1000, nornagon wrote: > On 5/24/06, Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 03:45:26PM +1000, nornagon wrote: > >> Python and Ruby are in many ways very similar. > > > >Where does this idea come from? Perl and Ruby are much closer, in my mind > > Well, yes - perl and ruby are similar. Because ruby draws on perl for > many of its concepts. Note that I didn't say "python and ruby are > closer than perl and ruby", though. :)
Point. But I can't think of too many similarities that Python and Ruby share that aren't also shared by a host of other languages, so I still don't know why everyone keeps on comparing them -- and I've asked this question before, and I've never gotten a good answer. I'm starting to suspect that people are just repeating what they've heard instead of actually sitting down and thinking about it for themselves. > >In fact, I can think of few things *worse* than an S&R meeting -- it'd > >either > >be inflammatory sniping about the percieved or actual deficiencies in each > >other's languages, or anaemic acknowledgement of the other's virtues. > >Neither sounds like a fun way to spend an evening to me. > > Aw, come on, flamewars are fun <g> No, they're not. Productive disagreements are great, but pointless bickering just sours people to each others' viewpoints. > >Personally, I think the general OSDC-style evening would probably be best > >-- > >especially if we can get some interesting talks on niche languages (or the > >term I heard today -- "stretch languages"[1]) to get people interested in > >what else is out there. > > Once again, why subvert the infrastructure already in place? Codefests ftw. > > I do like your idea about stretch languages, though... I'd love to get > someone talking about smalltalk or ocaml next codefest. :) Codefests are all day events, with a lot of different things going on. An OSDC-style SIG would be more structured, with a particular focus, and would probably be a couple of hours in an evening instead of a whole day (which is often hard for a lot of people to get to -- I know I've only been able to get to one in about the past 18 months). - Matt -- <liw> hut.fi has or used to have two nfs servers not-responding and still-trying... don't know if their dns server was not-found... 4o4 would be then a good name for the web server... endless hours of fun <aj> "did you get a response from 4o4?" "nah, it just 404ed" -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html