<quote who="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"> > Suse Ubuntu
> Easy for complex server Hard for complex server > eg Firewall, MASQ, tun setup & routing So, I would not describe these as 'complex server' tasks. These are basic network things for which Debian/Ubuntu don't provide an *enormous* amount of built-in clicky-clicky (CLI or GUI, helper tools are still clicky-clicky). On the other hand, for a truly complex server infrastructure, I would not choose anything but Debian/Ubuntu. I have been doing some Red Hat admin again recently, and every task reminds me how much easier life is on Debian and Ubuntu. Partly, this is because Red Hat chose to marginalise RHEL by making it available only to enterprise-paying customers, so the community around RHEL is *significantly* smaller than the communities around Fedora, Debian and Ubuntu. For things like mail server systems, web servers and so on, I would choose the Debian/Ubuntu world without worry. > Sysadmin works, is easy, is nice Sysadmin patchy, some works, some does > not > eg system -> administration -> services > see tricks later: update-rc.d I'm surprised you'd say 'patchy' about a distro that is essentially made by sysadmins, for sysadmins. That has been a delight for me about Debian since I first started using it. When you say 'tricks', I think you mean "things that are different and/or that I'm not used to because I don't have as much experience on this platform". How different, really, is update-rc.d to, say, chkconfig? They're both obtuse command line programs. > RPM is usually easy and lots of info apt-get is very easy > is available about installed not detailed info about packages > packages, changed packages, eg apt-get install kubuntu-desktop adds > 800M > contents of packaghes apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop dels > 40K !! Others have answered about apt-get vs. aptitude/synaptic/etc, but... Info about packages is lacking in Debian/Ubuntu? Dude, this is the platform that *drove* modern package management demands. What info are you missing? I'm pretty sure this comes down to "I'm familiar with the rpm commands, but not familiar with the apt/dpkg commands" - same as above. > multimedia possible multimedia easy - easyubuntu > > KDE Very clear and obvious Gnome Full of undocumented (obviously) tricks ...? - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2007: Sydney, Australia http://lca2007.linux.org.au/ "The cool stuff coming out of freedesktop.org doesn't just happen as the result of an accident with a particle accelerator and a goat: it only happens when people hack on it." - Daniel Stone -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
