What's more, the report says (and I'm paraphrasing a summary here) "We can block a list of a few thousand URLs with 100% effectiveness and no noticable false positives, with no noticable slow down of the internet. Non-URL based filters were only around 75% effective, which is better than last time. However, any motivated technical person can evade the URL list filter. If we try to prevent evasion of the filter, we will definitely slow down the internet."
Adam K 2009/12/17 Tony Sceats <tony.sce...@gmail.com>: > simply put, they can't really do it. All of the proposed solutions are HTTP > based only and have a variety of workarounds associated with them anyway. It > could stop a kid I'm sure, but maybe not a determined one. > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Kevin Shackleton > <kev...@reachnet.com.au>wrote: > >> I'm confused. >> >> I thought the whole idea of DARPANet was that it was bomb-proof - there >> was always another route open. How exactly are the Thought Police going >> to sit on every possible route into Oz? How well does the Chinese >> government censorship work, in terms of bandwidth filtered? I bet it's >> significantly under 100%. >> >> It seems to me, like metropolitan area wireless networks instill a >> little bit of honesty into ISPs, to be up to sites with links to >> international satellite service providers to resist any control from the >> government and pass packets not just because they can but because they >> should. >> >> Kevin. >> >> On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 17:46 +1100, meryl wrote: >> > Heracles is right. The Filtering problem is more about stifling freedoms >> > of speech and censoring the Net than it is about blocking child porn, >> > and it is bound to be extended into other areas so freedom of speech >> > will become a thing of the past for us in Australia. Apart from slowing >> > down our already sluggish Internet speeds, if it is introduced it is >> > likely to be extended down the track to include all manner of sites; >> > possibly even political dissenters... if they get away with this and >> > they'll add more and more sites to the list to the point where we may >> > one day envy the freedoms that the Chinese have! >> > >> > Really the child porn issue is just being used as an emotional ruse to >> > effect censorship controls because the purveyors of such material for >> > the most part would most likely use VPNs and other evasive methods to >> > avoid detection, as such their heinous activities will be totally >> > unaffected by the filter. How about the government catch these crooks >> > and lock them up instead of punishing all of us with this net-nanny >> > filter. >> > >> > By and large the Filter will be way more detrimental to the >> > average honest Internet user and the child pornographers will just sit >> > back and laugh at the stupidity of Australian government. >> > >> > for more info see: >> > http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,25773857-953,00.html >> > >> http://www.arnnet.com.au/article/312845/statistics_experts_label_isp_filtering_trials_unscientific?fp=16&fpid=1 >> > >> http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/careful-big-brother-is-editing-you/story-e6frg7go-1225792964441 >> > http://www.openforum.com.au/content/firewall-lies >> > http://libertus.net/liberty/ >> > http://www.efa.org.au/censorship/mandatory-isp-blocking/ >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8AZ21hCkIg >> > and as always there's a "Downfall" video on the subject! >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH35CVig3fQ >> > >> > cheers, >> > Meryl >> >> -- >> SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ >> Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html >> > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
