Hi,

We had the same error message. We see this happen when we get users submitting 
job arrays with lots of short jobs and then you get a storm of job starts and 
job completions within a short space of time.

For every start of a job or end of a job, there are multiple messages that go 
back and forth between the compute node, the slurm controller, the database 
daemon and the database itself and multiple rows are inserted and updated 
within the database. When there is a high turnover of jobs in a short amount of 
time the slurm system is unable to keep up and it effectively becomes a 
denial-of-service attack against slurm.

This command allowed me to see users that had a lot of jobs completing within 
the last day or so (you can add start and end filters for more precision)...

sacct  --allusers -o jobid%20,user%20,jobname,state,exitcode,elapsedraw | grep 
-v batch |grep -v extern | grep -v RUNNING | awk '{print $2}' | sort | uniq -c 
| sort -nr| head

(note because we are using pam_slurm_adopt we get 3 rows appearing for each job 
so I filter out the batch and extern rows)

For the users showing up here I then did

sacct  --allusers -o jobid%20,user%20,jobname,state,exitcode,elapsedraw | grep 
-v batch |grep -v extern | grep -v RUNNING | grep <username> |awk '{print $6}' 
| sort -n | uniq -c

substituting in the usernames. This shows the number of jobs with elapsed time 
of 0, 1, 2, 3 etc. seconds. If you see multiple users with high numbers in the 
sub 30 second range then this could be the reason. Submitting lots of short 
jobs (<30s runtime) is an anti-pattern.

Instead of submitting e.g. a 1000 element job array of 5 second jobs, the user 
could repackage this up into 10 jobs that do a for-loop over 100 of the 
individual jobs so that you get 10 jobs each with 100 subjobs with a runtime of 
500 seconds. This will avoid the message storms. You could even ask for 
multiple cores here and use gnu parallel to run the 100 jobs across a few 
cores. This would make the individual jobs run quicker than the expected 500 
seconds and you may get much higher cpu efficiency doing this if these jobs are 
bottlenecked on IO.

Emyr James
Head of Scientific IT
CRG - Centre for Genomic Regulation

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Sent: 30 July 2024 01:46
To: Patryk Bełzak <[email protected]>; Jason Ellul via slurm-users 
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Subject: [slurm-users] Re: slurmctld hourly: Unexpected missing socket error


Thanks again Patryk,



For your insights, we have implemented many of the same things, but the socket 
errors are still occurring regularly.



If we find a solution that works I will be sure to add it to this thread.



Many thanks



Jason





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Head - Research Computing Facility
Office of Cancer Research

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From: Patryk Bełzak via slurm-users <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, 24 July 2024 at 8:03 PM
To: Jason Ellul via slurm-users <[email protected]>
Subject: [slurm-users] Re: slurmctld hourly: Unexpected missing socket error

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Hi,

we're on 389 directory server (aka 389ds), which is pretty large instance. One 
of optimizations was to create proper ACI's on server side which significantly 
improved lookup times on slurm controller and worker nodes. Second thing was to 
move sssd cache to tmpfs - instruction by RedHat: 
https://docs.redhat.com/en/documentation/red_hat_enterprise_linux/9/html/tuning_performance_in_identity_management/assembly_tuning-sssd-performance-for-large-idm-ad-trust-deployments_tuning-performance-in-idm#mounting-the-sssd-cache-in-tmpfs_assembly_tuning-sssd-performance-for-large-idm-ad-trust-deployments<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.redhat.com/en/documentation/red_hat_enterprise_linux/9/html/tuning_performance_in_identity_management/assembly_tuning-sssd-performance-for-large-idm-ad-trust-deployments_tuning-performance-in-idm*mounting-the-sssd-cache-in-tmpfs_assembly_tuning-sssd-performance-for-large-idm-ad-trust-deployments__;Iw!!D9dNQwwGXtA!U118tTtyALG0v10xlNbtw0dYudfSp26zqS5jzFg5IoXl3pqfhcxugoKp7aQjepXrTsjQRZCC19v-Vms3DXQecOBh2OM$>
Entire chapter 9 may be helpful.

I also remembered that recently I modified kernel to match the slurmd port 
range from slurm.conf (60000-63001) by creating file 
/etc/sysctl.d/91-slurm.conf with following content:
# set ipv4 port range accordingly to slurmdPortRange in slurm.conf
net.ipv4.ip_local_port_range = 32768    63001
Unfortunately it hasn't stopped the error from occuring.

Best regards,
Patryk.

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> Hi Patryk,
>
> Thanks so much for your email.
>
> There are a couple of things you list that we have not tried yet so we will 
> definitely look at them. You mention optimizing SSSD which has me curious, 
> are you using RedHat Identity management (free IPA?) because we are and after 
> going through our logs it appears the errors became more consistent after 
> upgrading our instance and replica to REHL9.
>
> May I please ask what optimizations did you put in place for SSSD?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Jason
>
>
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> Office of Cancer Research
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> From: Patryk Bełzak via slurm-users <[email protected]>
> Date: Monday, 22 July 2024 at 6:03 PM
> To: Jason Ellul via slurm-users <[email protected]>
> Subject: [slurm-users] Re: slurmctld hourly: Unexpected missing socket error
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> Hi,
> we've been facing the same issue for some time. At the beginning the missing 
> socket error happened every 20 minutes, later once per hour, now it happens 
> few times a day.
> The only downside of this was that controller was unresponsive for that 
> couple of seconds - up to 60, if I remember well.
> We tried to debug it in many ways, but we've found no straightforward 
> solution or source of problems.
>
> Things we've changed since the problem came up:
> * RPC user limit: 
> `SlurmctldParameters=rl_enable,rl_bucket_size=50,rl_refill_period=1,rl_refill_rate=2,rl_table_size=16384`
> * made sure that VM that slurm runs on has "network-latency" profile in 
> `tuned`, also the same profile on worker nodes
> * implemented some of these recommendations 
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>  on controllers
> * largely optimized slurmdb by some housekeeping and cleaning up inactive 
> accounts, associations etc.
> * optimized SSSD configuration (this one I believe had the biggest impact) 
> both on controllers and on worker nodes
> plus plenty of other (not related I guess) changes.
>
> I'm not really sure if any of above helped us significantly in that matter.
>
> Best regards,
> Patryk Belzak.
>
> On 24/07/16 03:45, Jason Ellul via slurm-users wrote:
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> > Hi all,
> >
> > I am hoping someone can help with our problem. Every hour after restarting 
> > slurmctld the controller becomes unresponsive to commands for 1 sec, 
> > reporting errors such as:
> >
> > [2024-07-15T11:45:48.509] error: slurm_send_node_msg: [socket:[934767]] 
> > slurm_bufs_sendto(msg_type=RESPONSE_JOB_INFO) failed: Unexpected missing 
> > socket error
> > [2024-07-15T11:45:48.509] error: slurm_send_node_msg: [socket:[934760]] 
> > slurm_bufs_sendto(msg_type=RESPONSE_SLURM_RC) failed: Unexpected missing 
> > socket error
> > [2024-07-15T11:45:48.509] error: slurm_send_node_msg: [socket:[934875]] 
> > slurm_bufs_sendto(msg_type=RESPONSE_JOB_INFO) failed: Unexpected missing 
> > socket error
> > [2024-07-15T11:45:48.509] error: slurm_send_node_msg: [socket:[934906]] 
> > slurm_bufs_sendto(msg_type=RESPONSE_JOB_INFO) failed: Unexpected missing 
> > socket error
> > [2024-07-15T11:45:48.509] error: slurm_send_node_msg: [socket:[939016]] 
> > slurm_bufs_sendto(msg_type=RESPONSE_JOB_INFO) failed: Unexpected missing 
> > socket error
> >
> > It occurs consistently at around the hour mark, but generally not at other 
> > times, unless we run a reconfigure or restart the controller. We don’t see 
> > any issues in the slurmdbd.log and the errors are also always msg type 
> > RESPONSE. We have tried building a new server on different infrastructure, 
> > but the problem has persisted. Yesterday we even tried updating slurm to 
> > v24.05.1 in the hope that may provide a fix. During our troubleshooting we 
> > have:
> > Set:
> >
> >   *
> > SchedulerParameters     = 
> > max_rpc_cnt=400,sched_min_interval=50000,sched_max_job_start=300,batch_sched_delay=20,bf_resolution=600,bf_min_prio_reserve=2000,bf_min_age_reserve=600
> >   *
> > SlurmctldPort           = 6808-6817
> >
> > But although the stats in sdiag have improved we still see the errors.
> >
> > On our monitoring software we also see a drop in network and disk activity 
> > during this 1 second, always at approx. 1 hour after restarting the 
> > controller.
> >
> > Many Thanks in advance
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > Jason Ellul
> > Head - Research Computing Facility
> > Office of Cancer Research
> > Peter MacCallum Cancer Centre
>
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