Opps, forgot to mention.  On the bandwidth restrctions, I assume if you are
using PPPOE you can throttle by the username.  What about limits ?  I was
wishing to drop the customer to 64k once they hit there gigs per month?

Dennis

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 6:16 PM
Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs


>
> It doesn't actually do RADIUS itself, it acts as a RADIUS Client
> and can authenticate user accounts on your RADIUS server.
>
> The MikroTik software can basically do anything you want to do
> with routing. It does Source and Destination NAT, it allows you
> to mark packets so they can be run through specific firewall
> filters. It does PPPoE, PPTP, L2TP, VLAN, Queuing, bandwidth
> limiting by profile, HotSpot, and many more.
>
> What can I say, I love this software.
>
> I have it set up on our network between the internet and the
> wireless network. It authenticates the PPPoE and PPTP customers
> through the internal user list, it authenticates HotSpot users
> through our RADIUS server, it does NAT for most of the users,
> and routes static IPs for the business customers.
>
> Need it to do more? Add another $10 network card and you've got
> another port to work with.
>
> Kevin Summers
> KISTech Internet Services Inc.
> www.kistech.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:18 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> >
> >
> > After reading up on MikroTik, it looks pritty simple, and the costs are
> > cheap.
> >
> > The quesiton to you is, you can use this as a Radius server, PPPOE, and
do
> > your bandwidth management, plus a web proxy all in one box.  I have to
> > admit, the 64meg IDE flash unit is pritty kewl, just wish they
> > made a 40 gig
> > version that was as cheap :) hehehe
> >
> > If thats the case, what I am looking for is a backbone router, to
seperate
> > my wireless customers, do bandwidth managment, web proxy
> > (transparent), and
> > radius.  Does this do NAT only?  I am waiting to actually route a Class
C
> > over my wireless network.
> >
> > Let me know.
> >
> > Dennis
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mike Kelleher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:23 PM
> > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> >
> >
> > > I have the mikrotik software.  Someday I will get around to figuring
it
> > out.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Summers
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 4:09 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > We use MikroTik, which in version 2.7 allows you to set a
> > > profile for specific types of customers and then assign each
> > > client to their appropriate profile. It has queues too, but
> > > as you said they work on a group basis. The profiles in MikroTik
> > > are an awesome feature. It also has a default profile that you
> > > can set to whatever suits your needs, so if you have clients
> > > authenticating on the wireless through RADIUS they can be assigned
> > > to the default profile. We use that for our HotSpot service.
> > >
> > > Kevin Summers
> > > KISTech Internet Services Inc.
> > > www.kistech.com
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:30 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The only question I have on the BriLan software they answered for
me.
> > > > Currently, you HAVE to put the users in a QUEUE.  Each queue you can
> > limit
> > > > bandwidth, however, you have to create a queue for each user.
> > > > Otherwise, if
> > > > you say, they get 256, and you put 10 people in that queue.  They
are
> > all
> > > > sharing 256.
> > > >
> > > > The next version of BriLan due out in January is going to have
> > > > per MAC or IP
> > > > bandwidth restrictions, plus more than 128 queues.   I called
> > > > them and they
> > > > told me 250 bucks for the bandwidth management software :)
> > Inexpensive
> > > > solution for up to 128 users :)
> > > >
> > > > Dennis
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Eric Calkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 3:06 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I cant wait! :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Will we be able to throttle P2P crap tooooo? :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Eric
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > tonylist wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Eric
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This system is designed as an AP with bandwidth management
> > > > 128 is really
> > > > the
> > > > > > sweet spot for this code. The new version will not have a
> > limit like
> > > > this,
> > > > > > plus a BUNCH of new feature :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sincerely,  Tony Morella
> > > > > > Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider
> > > > > > Office: 908-996-7995 Cell: 908-246-9170 Fax: 908-847-0202
> > > > > > http://www.demarctech.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric
Calkins
> > > > > >>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 3:25 PM
> > > > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>My guess is if you have multiple clients in the same
> > queue they will
> > > > > >>share that queue.  sucky.  yeah this version only has 128
queues,
> > the
> > > > > >>upgrade will support 256?  Tony can confirm.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Eric
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Patrick wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>>When the specs say 128 queues, does that mean I can only use
this
> > > > > >>>software to limit up to 128 customers?  Since I was under the
> > > > > >>>impression that you have to put each customer in it's
> > own queue if
> > > > > >>>they are to have the full use of the bandwidth assigned to
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>that queue.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>>----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >>>From: "Eric Calkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >>>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 2:54 PM
> > > > > >>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>>I guess i dont understand why the screen in brilan for
bandwidth
> > > > > >>>>shaping is not what you want.
> > > > > >>>>http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-apos/Screens/sh
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>apping.htm
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>>>do you have each radios mac address for your subs in its own
> > queue?
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>eric
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>Mike Kelleher wrote:
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>>I'm looking for a real time view of usage.  Brilan can show
> > overall
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>realtime
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>>>or usage over extended periods.  My understanding is that
> > mikrotik
> > > > > >>>>>with
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>mrtg
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>>>can break it down to 1 min intervals.  That is close to real
> > time.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>Mike
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>-----Original Message-----
> > > > > >>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> > > > > >>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >>>>>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 10:09 AM
> > > > > >>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >>>>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>Oh hey Tony
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>That's pretty cool. I didn't know they had that.
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>Michael
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >>>>>From: "tonylist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >>>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >>>>>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 9:33 AM
> > > > > >>>>>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>To be 100% its $339 :)
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>>http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-apos/Screens/m
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>ain_screen
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>>>>s.htm
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>Sincerely,  Tony Morella
> > > > > >>>>>>Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider
> > > > > >>>>>>Office: 908-996-7995 Cell: 908-246-9170 Fax: 908-847-0202
> > > > > >>>>>>http://www.demarctech.com
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
> > > > > >>>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >>>>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric
> > Calkins
> > > > > >>>>>>>Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 10:16 AM
> > > > > >>>>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >>>>>>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>YDI's BCU is the same exact thing as brilan software
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>expect brilan
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>>>>>>only costs $330 vs. YDI'd unit $2500
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>eric :)
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>Mikrotik and YDI's BCU
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>Michael
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >>>>>>>>  *From:* Mike Kelleher <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>  *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>  *Sent:* Monday, July 07, 2003 9:01 AM
> > > > > >>>>>>>>  *Subject:* RE: [smartBridges] Bandwidth hogs
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>      Is anyone familiar with a monitoring program
> > which will
> > > > > >>>>>>>>      graphically show which mac/ip is currently using
what
> > > > > >>>>>>>>      bandwidth?  I use Brilan but unfortunately it only
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>shows what
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>      has been used and an over all current usage.
> > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > >>>>>>>>      Mike
> > > > > >>>>>>>
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