Beckman, We might be interested. We just went live last night, finally got everything up on the water tower and our tower, and was able to talk to all but one of our APPOs last night. Hope to be installing customers in about a week. We will be needing CPE soon, and may need another AirPoint Pro Outdoor for our tower here at our NOC. Email me the list of what you are selling with prices at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks, Gloria www.vsswireless.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "beckman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 2:52 PM Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Strange dbm values > > bing bing bing! we have a winner! :) > > I do like the fact that smart bridges speeds installs, enables us to use > Cat5 to the desktop/switch, enables SNMP on low end clients, and several > other features. When SB is good, its really good, when its bad, its really > bad. I would just like it to be good more often. > > Anyone want some smartbridges? Doing a conversion to Alvarion on part of our > network. Have 1 AP-Pro-outdoor, 2 AB-O, and 2 AB-i so far pulled from the > field. The outdoor products were exchanged with Tessco as the old ones had > problems, so they are new in box. Will be selling them off at 30-75$ below > retail. email if interested. I will be removing about 140 client units > (Aironet and smartbridges) over the next 3 months. Only small part of this > is from their 'issues', mostly due to sky rocketing noise from the city (I > am less than 10 miles from Fort Worth, Texas, a city of over a million > including the suburbs around it). > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Email > Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 1:55 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Strange dbm values > > > Thoughts on Beckman offering his opinions or views > > In a democracy you usually get changes by saying what you don't like about > something > > There are several things that need to be done to the radio that would not > cost anything > Maybe what he is saying is he would like to see these changes to make a > better product for everybody > > My observation > > Joe K > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan @ Wyoming.com > Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 11:03 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Strange dbm values > > > If you don't like the way SB has their Radio set up then don't use it. > If you think they are so expensive they why are you using them? Why > don't you just go use your Cisco raio's? Then there won't be anything > to bitch about. As for price they are much much cheaper then most > everything else out there. > > ???? > > > > On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 05:09:08 -0500 > "beckman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What I am 'bitching' about is that a AB will report -19dbm when the > > signal > > is actually -65. I have quality tools. I have a calibrated spectrum > > analyzer > > and many years of experience using it. I also have a 802.11b (Cisco) > > card > > that I have a known reference level to, so It is accurate. What I am > > saying > > is that other manufactures easily make an accurate 'out of the box' > > RSSI > > display, normally within 10% accuracy, and I expect the same from > > smart > > bridges. > > > > Displaying -19dbm on a 7 mile link with only 29db EIRP on the head > > end and > > 24 gain on the client end does not compute. My techs know to convert > > it, and > > not trust it, but it is dam annoying and for the price we pay for > > smartbridges, they can fix the software. We have taken to always > > putting a > > coax down the pole and using a pen-tablet with a Cisco Aironet card > > to aim > > the antenna and verify the link before we ever put the smartbridges > > on. (we > > originally started that because of the failure rate in smart > > bridges, its > > annoying to have to lower a H50 telescoping pole) > > > > Don't bitch at me for my demanding a quality product. Smartbridges > > are not > > cheep, I expect them to live up to their price. They are ESPECIALLY > > not > > cheep when we have to do a @#$%$ truck roll to fix them when they > > break. And > > Yes, I know many of you have had no problems with smart bridges, and > > I have > > had many sites with no problems too. But the most common thing in > > these > > sites with no problems seem to be that every thing is 'perfect'. > > Great > > ground, great signal, SB in the shade, 3 added lightning protectors > > (coax, > > power supply, and CAT5, adds 75$ to the cost, BTW), and low > > frequency of > > lightning and other bad weather nearby. the SB product line has a > > very low > > fudge factor. > > > > Donald Beckman > > Fort Worth, Texas > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of RFMS > > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 8:27 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Strange dbm values > > > > > > > > > > Beckman, > > > > None of them are accurate enough for a self respecting > > person to use more than once, unless you use the same > > card all the time to test the signal level, off-air. > > > > It would be best for the manufacturer to produce a > > QoS for data,AKA, BER instead of everyone discussing > > what the signal level should be for a CPE when installed. > > > > You want good data, start demanding it in print, with > > a corroborative source behind the printed spec's and > > then those folks selling junk will not be discussed > > here and this problem will cease to waste everyone's > > time here. > > > > In short, you do get what you pay for. 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