What ever you do, do not go to the mikrotik list and expect help like you
get here. I feel like I am throwing my email in a black hole when posting to
that list.

Jerry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Blaine Fleming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:35 AM
Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Competitive Marketing question


> I just want to say that you don't need any knowledge or concept of *NIX to
> use Mikrotik.  The command line interface is a custom shell with Cisco IOS
> style operation.  The GUI is even easier to use.
>
> --Blaine
>
>
> At 09:52 AM 8/13/2003, you wrote:
> >Jeremy,
> >Sorry about my previous question I just sent....seems you already
> >answered it here.
> >
> >It sounds like you and I have our networks set up exactly the same.
> >
> >I too want to move to the MikroTik as well.  I have been holding off for
> >2 reasons.
> >
> >1. I don't have the time to learn it/install it (plus my linux skills
> >are less than okay).
> >
> >2. I was hoping to use the new sB product for doing this.
> >
> >What sort of limits are you putting on the general queues??
> >
> >Sully
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Oswalt
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:24 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Competitive Marketing question
> >
> >I have a monthly limit set for customers, but it's not strictly
> >enforced.
> >The only time I enforce it is when I see someone abusing the network.
> >In
> >EVERY case where someone was abusing the network, it was because some
> >teenager loaded Kazaa.  Once I notified them, they dropped the download
> >settings and all is well.
> >
> >I'm in the process of installing Mikrotik at all locations and
> >implementing
> >"general" queues, but this is just to keep people from being too
> >excessive
> >in their use.  I hate limits, but realize they are needed to keep people
> >honest and to keep me profitable.
> >
> >   _____
> >
> >Jeremy
> >
> >   _____
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >On Behalf Of Mike @ Nitrous
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:14 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Competitive Marketing question
> >
> >When you say you don't limit uploads, do you not restrict the bandwidth,
> >or
> >are you referring to the aggregate upload total per month? If you are
> >not
> >restricting your bandwidth, how do you get around the hidden node issue?
> >We
> >have a YDI BCU for throttling/limiting bandwidth and I'll tell you it
> >had a
> >major impact on improving my performance.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeremy Oswalt
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:09 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Competitive Marketing question
> >
> >I'm competing against DSL.  Unfortunately, my WISP business is just an
> >expensive hobby, but that will change this fall when I put up two more
> >towers (which should have been up two months ago).  DSL is being rolled
> >out
> >in my area and it's had minor effects on my customers.  Once people have
> >my
> >service, they don't switch.  My pricing is cheaper (besides the expense
> >of
> >the radio) and I don't limit uploads like DSL.  For web designers or
> >home
> >techies, this is a MUST.
> >
> >   _____
> >
> >Jeremy
> >
> >   _____
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >On Behalf Of Mike @ Nitrous
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 8:09 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: [smartBridges] Competitive Marketing question
> >
> >Slightly off center of topic but I have a question re competition and
> >since
> >I use SB I'd like an apples comparative answer.
> >
> >For those of you serving residential customers, do you compete against
> >DSL
> >and/or cable?  If so, how do you differentiate yourself?  What is your
> >economic model (i.e. are you profitable yet)?
> >
> >
> >Just for the record we are a small (startup 3/15/03) wisp serving
> >residential customers in South Florida (Lightning Capital of the
> >World.....hooray).
> >
> >I have about 100 customers installed, with more in the wings and
> >unfortunately DSL just rolled in.
> >
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Mike
> >Nitrous Networks
> >
> >
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