I am using the bandwidth controller software from www.demarctech.com

Isn't setting RTS to one going to shut down the customer??


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 3:10 PM
Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems



Also, how are you throttling bandwidth per customer?

Kevin Summers
KISTech Internet Services Inc.
www.kistech.com




> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Blazen Wireless
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 3:01 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems
>
>
> I also forgot to mention I throttled the one big user down to 100kbps and
> same think its like it has a hold on the APPO at 11 megs  (5.5)
> and wont let
> anything else talk to it??
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Blazen Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 2:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems
>
>
> Okay this slow down is really killing me I have all users turned off that
> appear to be sending any kind of arp but this was not what was causing the
> slowdowns. I have two users on right now one downloading at
> 700kbps and the
> other one my slow customer just trying to surf and cant due it due to ping
> rates we beyond out of control 300-400 and packet loss.
>
> I turn off the one customer who is downloading and the problem resolves. I
> called the customer downloading and they are doing Microsoft patches on
> their machines right now so its not a virus. What gives why can one person
> not taking up the full bandwidth screw the whole system I mean every one
> else is at a dead stand still??
>
> To me this is a problem in the radio APPO not being able to talk to two
> radios at the same time at two different speeds this thing is totally just
> sh**ing all over itself?
>
> Anyone else see this happen I had the APPO set to 1 meg only 2 meg and 5.5
> and also 11 but nothing seems to help! I have RTS set to 800 on
> the clients
> and that made no difference I give up this customer wants me to come pull
> the equipment..
>
> Any ideas?
> HELP!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Radabaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 6:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems
>
>
> This can get tricky.  You need to be on a port that sees all of the
> traffic - read that as 'not a switch port'.  By definition a switch will
> only show you packets destined for your computer.
>
> If you really want to see what going on you need a hub or a managed switch
> that can replicate all traffic onto a port.
>
> Another option is to use a wireless card in promiscious mode - a
> mode where
> you see all of the traffic.   Ethereal will do this with (I think) most
> common wireless cards.
>
> Mark Radabaugh
> Amplex
> (419) 720-3635
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pascal Losier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 5:41 PM
> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems
>
>
> >
> > Just a small question,
> >
> > When running ethereal, Do you run it directly on the router
> > (ex.Mikrotik) or on any system connected to the router.
> >
> > Also does it matter if the system running ethereal is log via PPPOE ????
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 6:12 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems
> >
> >
> > HAHA well then my router has the virus I get like over 2000 arp request
> > from the router in less then 20 min which I think is way out of control
> > it always is asking who has what IP etc. I was told this is normal in
> > order for the router to know what IP has what mac etc..
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Scott Damron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 12:15 PM
> > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems
> >
> >
> > A WHOLE bunch of arp requests.  If you run ethereal, you would see
> > upwards of 30 or 40% ARP requests.  Some of the viruses cause ARP
> > storms.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 12:09 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems
> >
> >
> > What do you mean check arp I know how to check it but what am I looking
> > for??
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Scott Damron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:37 AM
> > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems
> >
> >
> > Check ARP.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:17 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems
> >
> >
> > I have done that already and there is no ICMP other then me pinging the
> > radios It doesn't happen when there is no one online it only happens
> > when a few close users get on and start to surf and then the far users
> > have a hard time with dropped packets and slow speeds and high pings. I
> > just thing I need to open up another AP closer to them and keep my
> > distance down to under 5 miles. The one person having the hardest time
> > is about 5.6 miles which is closer then my 7.2 mile customer who is
> > doing great and pointed at the same radio APPO. It might just be this
> > person is in a bad area with more interference is what I am thinking and
> > I also may need to raise her ant a smidge..
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:47 AM
> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems
> >
> >
> > Every time I've experienced interference (numerous times), it hasn't
> > affected ping times.  From what I've seen, it usually causes lost
> > packets, but not high latency.  I don't know if anyone has mentioned
> > this before (I jumped in in the middle of this thread), but what you're
> > describing sounds exactly like something I experienced a few weeks ago.
> > I had about six users with the Welchia virus, and they were causing high
> > latency all over the network.  If you haven't done it already, put a
> > packet sniffer on the network, and see if you're seeing a lot of icmp
> > echo traffic.
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
> > Quoting Blazen Wireless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > > Well maybe this is not the problem now I am back to the same issues
> > > pings up to over 100ms and it seems now more with radios that never
> > > had problems before I am thinking more of interference now? How many
> > > of you have seen a drastic increase in SOHO wireless routers popping
> > > up on your site survey tab when setting up a customer, I s**t you not
> > > one the other day had 11
> > that
> > > all
> > > said linksys or the default ssid for dlink stuff. Are those
> > manufacturers
> > > within spec it seems more and more are popping up and some with better
> >
> > > signal then my tower according to the site survey numbers in the ABO
> > /ABI
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Scott Damron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:07 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems
> > >
> > >
> > > Actually, it does not really drop everyone down to 1meg, it just _MAY_
> >
> > > slow down the 11meg folks in order to respond to the 1meg person. Hope
> >
> > > that makes sense.
> > >
> > > Scott
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Wirefree
> > > Network
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:08 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems
> > >
> > >
> > > Huh!??!?  This seems bass ackwards.  If one client associates at 1
> > > Meg, it drops everyone down to that speed.  Not the other way around.
> > > Weakest link theory.  If a client can not associate at 11 Meg and
> > > steps it's way down to 1 Meg, then it CAN NOT be forced to connect at
> > > 11 Meg. However, a client who is close in with 100% RSSI, could be
> > > stepped down to 1 Meg based on some far out client.
> > >
> > > Sully
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:56 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems
> > >
> > > I have throttling in place now thats not the issue. The issue is in my
> >
> > > opinion and theory is at what rate the radios associate at.. If they
> > > are only associating at 1 meg or less then yes you will have
> > > throughput problems, if I have all my close customers able to
> > > associate at 11 megs
> > > (5.5) and my furthest customers only at 1 meg ( 500kbps) then the
> > > further users are not going to be able to associate at 1 meg but will
> > be
> > > forced to associate at 11 megs and since that is not a stable link
> > they
> > > will suffer as I kind of proved tonight but cant be 100% sure unless I
> >
> > > could verify what speed the users radios are associating at to the AP.
> >
> > > In theory the AP cant be associated to 3 to 4 radios all at different
> > > speeds. They will be associated at the speed of the slowest radio or
> > the
> > > fastest depending on what radio has the best link I think?
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Vasu (sB Tech Team)
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:27 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems
> > >
> > > That's the basics of 802.11 std, when one user hogs the entire
> > > bandwidth the remaining users have to share the bandwidth, hence
> > > bandwidth throttling is important to ensure good and stable links to
> > > all users, I think the XO series access point should solve your
> > > problem which can provide dedicated bandwidth to every user.
> > >
> > > Vasu
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:02 PM
> > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > Subject: [smartBridges] Slow down problems
> > >
> > > Okay I think I have figured out the problem with my system. It seems
> > > that when users are one (close users) they are associated to the APPO
> > > at 5.5 to 11 megs possibly and the users that are further away are at
> > > 1 meg max well if you have the near users at 11 megs tying up the
> > > radio and the far uses cant connect at a slower speed for a better
> > > link / speed quality then the far users suffer? am I correct in my
> > > theory does that make any sense?
> > >
> > > So going forward we are going to have to plan some more sites closer
> > > to the users having issues etc Has anyone else experienced this. I
> > > cant verify 100% that this is true due to the fact the radios don't
> > > report what speed they are associated at? Can someone think of a way
> > > to validate this theory??
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Martin & Steve
> > > Blazen Wireless
> > > www.blazenwireless.com
> > >
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