Makes perfect sense to me.  

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From: Bill Flood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 10:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [smartBridges] A while back I posted this.

A while back I posted this and no one except Nish responded.  People need 
to take a proactive stance, as Martin has suggested people need to 
cooperate and participate to make this work.  We need to understand how 
your network is setup in order to properly troubleshoot your problems. 
Invest the time it will be worth it!!

Bill



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Subject: [smartBridges] HOW IS YOUR SYSTEM SET UP?

I've been thinking about this for weeks.  As a group we need to identify 
how are systems are configured end-to-end.  Start there, then determine who 
is having problems. Statistically, it would be interesting to find out 
which solutions work the best, which don't.

How many ways can a WISP be setup?  I would say that there has to be some 
common configurations used.  Start there, then when this is determined add 
some detail, which types of equipment / servers are used.
Do you use statically assigned IP's or do you use DHCP?
Public or private IP's?
Do you mix manufactures or do you use just SB?
Which access points have trouble, what is the percentage of SB to other 
equipment?
Are the other manufactures equipment also having trouble?
Of the clients which have trouble are they talking to a SB access point?

I foresee a flow chart.  A means to troubleshoot these problems LOGICALLY 
not emotionally.  Possibly, Smartbridges will see this as a benefit also 
and give us a secure page or two to display this troubleshooting flow chart.

As we discuss our problems on this list we have no idea how any of us are 
set up.  If this could be determined, if we had solid ground to work with, 
we as a group could Help one another technically, logically and find 
commonalities, solutions and problem areas.

Once we bring emotion into this list we go NO WHERE.

Is it worth YOUR TIME to help create a troubleshooting format / 
flowchart.  To explain your setup so that an identifier can be assigned to 
it so when you have a problem you could say " my system is set up like this:
  A:  T1-> Cisco 2510 -> Server-Firewall ->Shaper -> Radio P-t-P 
Radio[Alvarion] -> APPO [SB]

Or set up like:
  B: xDSL -> Router -> Server  -> Radio

The list Daddy could set up a timed reminder that would mail the website 
out to the list with these different configurations listed.  SB could 
control the access in the same manner that they are currently using for 
updates and secure SB info.

New people on the list should be encouraged to use this troubleshooting 
guide to figure out their configuration before asking questions to the list.

We need some rules of engagement, so we as a group of SB users can help and 
support each other with technology, logic and an accumulated knowledge base.

Who is interested?
Who can help?

I appreciate your time in reading this.

Bill Flood
AirRunner Networks LLC

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