thanks for all the great responses! i now have two new bits of information; the 
onboard SATA is compatible, and there are only 3 drive bays (which likely 
explains why the previous admin only had 3 disks) ... there is a tiny bit of 
room in the case below the drive bays that i believe i could mount a 2.5" disk, 
in order to achieve 4, but the current disks are 3.5 and i'm seriously 
considering just replacing them all with consumer SSD devices in mirrored pairs 
without additional slog to see what happens. i'm thinking crucial mx200 or 
samsung evo in this case ... unless someone can tell me for sure that's a bad 
plan, i'll just see what happens and maybe report back here later. 


----- On Jun 17, 2015, at 6:44 AM, Jack Downes <[email protected]> wrote: 

Sorry about that... typos, yay. 

On 06/16/2015 01:21 PM, Mark Creamer wrote: 



Careful with that link... I believe you actually want goharddrive.com (2 "d") 
The other one looks like a potential malware trap. :-) 

mc 

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:49 PM, Jack Downes < [email protected] > wrote: 

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I'd have to echo Sebastian mostly. Zfs is great, but the underlying hardware 
is... what is. add another 1 tb drive and put that as Raid 10 (stripe the 
mirrors), and it'll perform pretty decently. You'd be surprised. If you have 
the money, yeah, SSD is fantastic, but wow... if you are trying to get 
reasonable size, you'll spend some cash. Perhaps in this case that doesn't 
matter. If you have the money for SSD drives, you might consider getting 4 
reasonable 2TB drives (they sell them for $50 each on gohardrive.com anymore 
for WD RE4 or Hitachi Ultrastars now), and then putting some budget into a 
smartOS compatible PCI-SSD drive. Be careful on that - it's easy to get the 
wrong drive, but it's not that hard to get the right one either! That way you'd 
have your 4 spindles, raid 10 with a slog, it'd be decent that way, IMHO. 

On 06/15/2015 07:07 PM, [email protected] wrote: 

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one of my clients owns a supermicro-based box with 4 hot-swap sata bays. it has 
integrated SATA and (i believe) no SAS. the original admin populated it with 
(3) 1TB SATA disks and commissioned it as a fileserver (simple raid5). it has 
32GB of memory. the box is no longer being used, so it's been allocated to me 
for the purpose of hosting another windows server. i'd like to virtualize the 
server via smartos/kvm but i have reservations. 

i believe i can get away with using only 16GB for VMs, so that leaves 16GB for 
smartos/zfs - i think that'll probably work well. but i seriously doubt those 
disks will give anything resembling decent performance. i only have 4 bays to 
work with, and only one is currently free. for a windows server VM hosting a 
multi-user database, would adding a SATA SSD as log device for the zones zpool 
keep me out of hot water here or is this just not going to work? 

obviously i can try to source a supported SAS controller and disks, but i'm 
wondering if i can actually get by with SATA ... what if i filled the (4) 3.5" 
bays with SSDs and striped across two mirrors? would that mostly guarantee 
decent performance, or will that just waste time and money? 

experienced opinions greatfully accepted! 


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