Hi Joachim! On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 14:37:29 +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote: > I just installed xserver-xorg-input-tslib (0.0.5-3) from experimental. > Unfortunately, a change there (which is probably this patch: [...] ) > makes it use hal to detect the input device.
This is the default on X.Org_1.5, together with the fact that it relies on evdev to manage the input devices. However, theoretically this should not break old configurations and indeed for x-x-i-tslib hal is only a Recommends:. > It also changes the option name from "TslibDevice" to "Device". I welcome very much this change, because it render the x-x-i-tslib consistent with other input drivers. > This means for existing users that, after you upgrade, you either have > to modify your xorg.conf, or that you have to install hal. The former is necessary and unfortunately I do not see any other solution. The latter, however, should not be necessary: I installed x-x-i-tslib from experimental and without hal it just work :-) > It also means that we have to adjust the installer. Which should we > do? Install hal by default? Short answer: it is not necessary. Long answer: Iwould strongly disagree, at least because it requires too much space: ===== debian-gta02:~# apt-get install hal [...] The following extra packages will be installed: console-common console-data hal-info kbd libhal-storage1 pm-utils usbutils Suggested packages: unicode-data gnome-device-manager cpufrequtils Recommended packages: eject uswsusp vbetool radeontool The following NEW packages will be installed: console-common console-data hal hal-info kbd libhal-storage1 pm-utils usbutils 0 upgraded, 8 newly installed, 0 to remove and 9 not upgraded. Need to get 3178kB of archives. After this operation, 8974kB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? ===== Most of the space is for console stuff: ===== debian-gta02:~# apt-get install console-common [...] The following extra packages will be installed: console-data kbd Suggested packages: unicode-data The following NEW packages will be installed: console-common console-data kbd 0 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 9 not upgraded. Need to get 1593kB of archives. After this operation, 5181kB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? ===== While hal does not directly depend on console stuff, pm-utils does. The reason hal requires pm-utils is because of suspend support: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-utopia/packages/unstable/?rev=1808&sc=1 --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- hal (0.5.10-1) unstable; urgency=low [ Michael Biebl ] [...] * debian/control [...] - Add a Depends: pm-utils. Beginning with this release we will only support pm-utils as suspend infrastructure. [...] -- Michael Biebl <[email protected]> Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:42:59 +0200 --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- This ringed a bell on my head and indeed I already asked for downgrading the dependency on pm-utils to a Recommends: (check also the merged bug for a more detailed discussion): http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=448197 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=477913 We will need to monitor that bug as well :-( Thx, bye, Gismo / Luca
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