Hi Thanasis,

thanks for taking the time. I appreciate your effort.

On Mar 2, 10:09 pm, Thanasis <[email protected]> wrote:
> I still think that you are looking at the wrong direction. This has
> something to do with the comm link.

In that case I would expect that I either get randomly messed up
messages, or at random times, or problems at regular intervals (after
x characters, something like that). But what I observe is that the
messages are _always_ bad when using _one_ originator, and _always_
good when using a different one. No matter how much I've done in the
same terminal session before, no matter in which order I send the
messages, always the same pattern.

>
> This PDU with the dozens of FFs at the end, is certainly *not* a bad
> encoded PDU.

I can see why you say that. However, look at what the terminal session
shows. I sent off three SM with originator "Stefan Renz", each with
more text appended to the content. Then, I sent the same content in
the same order, but this time with originator "Renz Stefan". Here's
what shows up:

+CMGL: 2,1,,34
0891534875001040F30414D0537AD91C7683A465B71E0000013030414101400CC7F79B0C6ABFE5EEB4FB0C
+CMGL: 3,1,,54
0891534875001040F30414D0537AD91C7683A465B71E00000130304141024023C7F79B0C6ABFE5EEB4FB0CA2BF41F977DD052ADACBF23C1D9D769F41EFF50F
+CMGL: 4,1,,71
0891534875001040F30414D0537AD91C7683A465B71E00000130304172944036C7F79B0C6ABFE5EEB4FB0CA2BF41F977DD052ADACBF23C1D9D769F41EFF50FF444B3407474987E029DE5E5307DF30A01
+CMGL: 5,1,,163
0891534875001040F30414D0D2B25B0F0000000000000F30204420B2AF0F90A0CBE6B01B00000130FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
+CMGL: 6,1,,163
0891534875001040F30414D0D2B25B0F0000000000000F30604420B2AF0F90A0CBE6B01B00000130FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
+CMGL: 7,1,,163
0891534875001040F30414D0D2B25B0F0000000000000F30704420B2AF0F90A0CBE6B01B00000130FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

So I rule out that I mis-use the bulk gateway, because in that case I
would not be able to decode the first three messages. I also rule our
that the message length has something to do with it, as I sent
different content.

I've also sent the messages to my mobile phone, where they come out
right.

> I understand that you are giving the CGMR command by hand (i.e
> Hyperterminal?) and still get those FFs, right? Have you tried to play
> with XON/XOFF or hardware handshake settings and see if it makes any
> difference?

Yes, I'm working off kermit on Linux, tried different settings,
speeds, etc. Unfortunately, to no avail.

So what I can rule out:
* cause in smslib, as smslib is not at all involved (so I'm even more
grateful for your help)
* improper use of the bulk SMS gateway (see above)

Leaves me with
* serial communication is broken (what you suggest)
* Pdu package is broken (apparently, but why?)
* SIM card broken
* provider broken
* modem broken

I'll need to get a different device, so I can rule out or prove the
last three points.

Oh, BTW, Nokia 6500c is not compatible with smslib as it doesn't
support +CPMS and +CMGL, so I can't use my mobile phone to verify my
issue :-(

Thanks, bye
    Stefan

>
> On Mar 2, 10:14 pm, sgr <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
>
> > thanks for the hint. I tried as suggested, but it didn't change a bit.
> > I think you're right with the buffer overflow: the TP-UDL (length of
> > the message) comes _after_ the originator address, and as such is
> > already garbled (does the mobile device look at that same field?). I
> > guess that's why we see the FFs (and I've seen 00's as well in other
> > garbled messages). Furthermore, the behavior is reliably reproducable
> > -- regardless of which SM arrives first, the one with the "bad"
> > originator string is always garbled.
>
> > I think I need to bite the bullet at decode the raw PDU string by hand
> > to see where exactly things go awry. My bet is that the originator
> > string is NOT encoded as expected, and looking at the comments in the
> > PduParser, there seems to be some room for interpretation.
>
> > I'll keep you posted, but would still appreciate any hints...
>
> > Bye
> >     Stefan
>
> > On Mar 2, 8:30 pm, Thanasis <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Hi,
>
> > > I've seen this sequence of FFs before, but had nothing to do with the
> > > actual message. Those strange FFs are sign of a communication failure,
> > > maybe a buffer overflow or something going wrong with the serial port
> > > connecting the phone.
>
> > > Try to work with different baud rates. Start with 9600, test and
> > > increase baud rate. I could bet that this has nothing to do with the
> > > originator string.
>
> > > On Mar 2, 2:34 pm, sgr <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Hi,
>
> > > > I have trouble parsing a PDU message with an originator address other
> > > > than an international phone number. Let me briefly explain the purpose
> > > > and setup before I go into the message specifics.
>
> > > > I need to receive an SM sent by a business partner. They probably send
> > > > the SM via a bulk SMS gateway, using an arbitrary string as the
> > > > originator address. I also have access to a bulk SMS gateway, so I can
> > > > approximate what the partner sends us. I receive the SM on a GSM-Modem
> > > > (Siemens M20), using the smsserver component of smslib. I'm
> > > > interpreting the received SM by implementing
> > > > org.smslib.smsserver.interfaces.Interface#MessagesReceived.
> > > >  I've tested the implementation by sending an SMS to the modem from my
> > > > mobile phone. Works like a charm.
>
> > > > However, things change when I receive messages from certain originator
> > > > addresses of type D0, for example, "Renz Stefan". All PDU data
> > > > following the originator address block seems to be garbled, looking at
> > > > the resulting SmsDeliveryPdu object. I've seen TP-PIDs of 0x21 and
> > > > 0x58, where 0x00 is expected. Also, the TP-SCTS is either way in the
> > > > future, or in the past (by years).
>
> > > > Here's the raw PDU that I read from the modem (e.g. by issuing AT
> > > > +CMGR=...):
> > > > 0891534875001040F30414D0D2B25B0F0000000000000F30204420B2AF0F90A0CBE6B01B000
> > > >  
> > > > 00130FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
> > > >  
> > > > FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
> > > >  
> > > > FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
> > > >  FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
>
> > > > Using a different originator, say, using now "Stefan Renz" instead of
> > > > "Renz Stefan", works out well: the SMS is well parsable by the
> > > > PduParser:
> > > > here's the raw PDU String I copied from the terminal program:
> > > > 0891534875001040F30414D0537AD91C7683A465B71E0000013020017560400CC7F79B0C6AB
> > > >  FE5EEB4FB0C
>
> > > > The only difference between the two are the originator address, and
> > > > the time sent. Immediately striking is the fact that the garbled
> > > > message is much longer and seems to be somewhat padded.
>
> > > > In order to play with those messages, I directly use
> > > > org.ajwcc.pduUtils.gsm3040.PduParser#parse, passing in those raw PDU
> > > > strings, and looking at the resulting Pdu objects.
>
> > > > Does anyone have an idea of where I go wrong, or what the problem may
> > > > be? The whole issue looks rather strange to me, especially since the
> > > > PDU data received on the modem already looks garbled.
>
> > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > Stefan

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