En parlant de delai de temps d'attente, Page 5 du journal de Montreal 
d'aujourd'hui parles d'un Mr. Fracture de Hanche qui aurait attendu 7hr de 
temps pour sont ambulance, et ce a Mtl. Le 18 decembre dernier, le jour de 
notre 30 cm de neige.malgré qu'il etait dans une clinique medical (il a chuté 
dans la clinique) 7hrs souffrant....c'est long.(pour ceux qui on le journal, 
page 21....collision fatal en vtt...a lire ;) )
Marilyn P.PSP region LanaudiereMembre APPQ


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Effectivement, c’était une jeune femme souffrant d’un bronchospasmes sévère….. 
arrêt respiratoire si je ne me trompe puis code. Le reste, de mémoire, est 
relié aux problèmes que tu indiques plus bas.
 
Faut pas se le cacher…. Ce type d’évênement arrive ici aussi….. c’est pas 
médiatiser mais si je ne me trompe, aux nouvelles d’aujourd’hui, un cas de 
délais d’affectation des SMU s’est produit cette semaine en Gatineau….. 
 
Bonne soirée à tous!
 
Fernando
 




From: smu-l@urgences.ca [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Francois 
LabelleSent: January 4, 2008 3:59 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: SMU-L: Et si cela 
arrivait?
 

quelque chose du genre est deja arrive un 25 decembre ... 1993 je pense ... me 
rappelle plus ...

la premiere ambulance a eu un accident...

la deuxiemme les portes ne s ouvrais plus ...

la troisiemme a amener un fille de 18 ans  code a maisonneuve rosement ....

 

Francois Labelle


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From: Guillaume Marchand 

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Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 3:43 PM

Subject: SMU-L: Et si cela arrivait?

 
Et si cela arrivait à Montréal/Laval?En fait, la vrai question n'est pas "si?" 
mais bien "quand?".Guillaume MarchandParamédic Soins PrimairesCorporation 
d'Urgences-SantéMembre APPQ / 
SPHhttp://www.emsresponder.com/article/article.jsp?siteSection=1&id=6802
Philadelphia Woman Dies During Botched EMS Call


By DAVE DAVIES

The Philadelphia Daily News
 
A Northeast Philadelphia woman died early Tuesday morning after waiting more 
than an hour for a city ambulance to respond to her 911 call for help.
In one of the most troubling episodes in memory for the city's beleaguered 
emergency medical system, the ambulance that finally arrived broke down and was 
unable to take Deborah Payne, 55, to the hospital.
Another arrived an hour and 40 minutes after the original call, but ended up 
taking Payne to the morgue, not the hospital.
She was declared dead in the stalled ambulance at the Park Terrace Apartments, 
on Rowland Avenue near Rhawn Street, where she lived.
"I don't think it could have been a worse situation," said Fire Commissioner 
Lloyd Ayers, whose department runs the EMS system. "This hurts. It's painful 
for everyone involved."
Just last week, a review by City Controller Alan Butkovitz found the emergency 
medical system lacking in resources and too slow in getting to citizens in need.
"Something like this really brings that report into focus," Ayers said. "We 
need more resources. We have to examine these things and do what we can to help 
folks."
Ayers said Payne called 911 to report she was having trouble breathing. Her 
call came at the most difficult time of the year for the EMS system: between 
midnight and 4 a.m. as New Year's Eve turns into New Year's Day.
According to Ayers, here's what happened:
Payne called for help at 2:39 a.m., and within four minutes a fire unit, Engine 
Company 36, arrived to begin first aid. Fire trucks typically are dispatched as 
"first responders" to administer basic medical care, but can't transport a 
patient to the hospital.
The emergency medical technicians from the fire truck gave Payne oxygen while 
waiting for an ambulance unit. A second fire truck, Ladder Company 20, arrived 
in a few minutes with more oxygen.
It wasn't until 3:42 a.m. - more than an hour after Payne called 911 - that an 
ambulance, Medic Unit 43-B, based at 4th and Snyder in South Philadelphia, 
arrived. Medic 43-B is a "basic-life-support" ambulance that isn't equipped to 
perform all kinds of emergency care, but can take a patient to the hospital.
Payne was loaded into Medic 43-B, which then failed to start.
By the time a backup unit arrived at 4:20 a.m., Payne was dead in the ambulance 
that couldn't move.
The medical examiner's office listed the cause of her death as morbid obesity.
Ayers said for this New Year's Eve he added extra communications pesonnel and 
five ambulances to the 28 that would normally be on duty in the wee hours, but 
it was clear that the system was stretched beyond its limit.
"We get so many calls then, a lot of them for people who've fallen down or 
passed out drunk," Ayers said. "That makes it harder for us to get to more 
serious situations like this one."
Firefighters' union president Brian McBride said that Payne's death shows the 
tragic consequences of failing to fund the city's emergency medical system.
"We have to adequately budget for public safety," McBride said. "We've been 
fighting this battle for years. It's a public-safety emergency." * 
 
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