I’m a classical music lover, and find YouTube excellent. I watch it on TV (super concerts from Wigmore Hall and around the world) and also on my phone. Their library is extensive. If you want to hear, say, a Sibelius symphony there will be 3 or 4 versions to choose from. I pay for Premium to avoid adverts. Virginia
> On 5 Jan 2022, at 00:38, Toby Leighton <tobio2...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Apple Music plan includes iTunes Match, so basically everything will behave > for you exactly as it already does! > Apple Music and the ITunes store are actually two separate things, so some > music isn't available in apple music plan, but is available to buy in itunes, > I think both vary by region too, so you may be able to use a VPN or proxy to > make yourself appear to be in a different country and have more music > available (never tried) > > I've read horror stories of people having their precious rare bootlegs > replaced with studio versions, or Rap/Hiphop with explicit lyrics being > replaced with clean versions, but I've never experienced this myself or know > any people in real life this has happened to. I've annoyingly purchased > music on places like bandcamp and had say 9/10 songs match and 1 be > persistent and refuse to match, so in my experience the audio detection > algorithm is pretty strict. the odd unmatched song is not a huge deal but I > like my library to be orderly so it sometimes bugs me, but I can't hear the > difference which is the really important thing. > > Another thing that isn't obvious and may affect playback on other devices or > software, is that the traditional (256kbps) matched audio is DRM free, but > the new lossless audio + dolby formats are never DRM free, even when matched > to music you already own. > > Also once or twice I've stopped my apple music subscription, waited a few > months and got the 3 months for the price of 1 offer again. your library > doesn't vanish in a puff of smoke if you cancel the subscription, the apple > music songs are all there but greyed unplayable out because you don't have > the decryption keys any more. I know a lot of people get scared that > everything could go, and thinking back to the days of the hard disk based > ipod, where if you connect it to someone else computer you are one accidental > misclick away from losing everything it is certainly a valid concern! I do > make regular backups of my whole library to an external hard drive just in > case. > >> On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 at 23:02, 'Stephen Watson' via Sussex Mac User Group >> <smug@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> Hi Jason, >> >> I can’t vouch for uploading items which may have the same name by the same >> artist that is on Apple Music already as the only ones I have recorded and >> uploaded were because they did not exist on AM. If you keep backups of all >> your bootlegs (as it sounds as though you do) then you should be fine if it >> goes pear-shaped. >> >> You can definitely upload your own recordings and then stream them back >> down, for example my copy of “You’ve got to be a hustler if you want to get >> on!” by Sue Wilkinson is inexplicably not in the AM catalogue but I can play >> it on all my devices after recording the 7” vinyl myself and then uploading >> it to AM. 😀 >> >> One of my albums was Ricochet & I had it on vinyl since release. Joined up >> to AM and Ricochet was there so I added it to my library. When I went to >> play it next it said it was no longer available, or similar! It turned out >> that the Album had been removed as an individual album, but had been >> subsumed into “Tangerine Dream - the Virgin Years 1970 to 1978”, or >> something like that. Ricochet has now become two tracks on a “compilation >> album”. So, I created a playlist called Ricochet, added just those two >> tracks that comprise Ricochet taken from the compilation and set the >> playlist’s artwork to the Ricochet cover. Longwinded but I effectively >> re-created the album. I have a “virtual albums” folder which contains >> several playlists like this. Joan Armatrading’s “Show Some Emotion” album is >> not in the AM catalogue(!) but all but one of its tracks are present >> scattered across about 3 compilation albums so I’ve made another virtual >> album of that. It’s very tedious and is the price of streaming … >> >> Apart from this silliness, which I suspect is out of Apple’s hands and in >> those of the labels and copyright holders, I’ve loved it - pretty much every >> piece of music I’ve ever had at home (bar a few tracks) I can now listen to >> when I want in the car or train or bus. That’s worth the annoyances. And the >> fee … plus of course, I can add anything interesting that I hear. >> >> You may like to try out the “Albums” app. It doesn’t understand my “virtual >> albums” as Apple’s app does, but it’s got some brilliant features and treats >> your music like a collection of … albums which is how I’ve always seen my >> collection. >> >> Cheers, >> Stephen >> >> You meet your destiny on the road you take to avoid it. ~ Carl Jung >> >>>> On 3 Jan 2022, at 21:42, 'Jason Davies' via Sussex Mac User Group >>>> <smug@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>> >>> This is useful, thanks. I didn't realise you could upload (you can with >>> Match, I thought Apple Music just gave you free access to their catalogue). >>> My issue is that I have a. ridiculous number of live bootlegs, sometimes >>> the same gig but different recordings and so on, and I worried they would >>> get overwritten/'upgraded'. I would be lucky to find them again, you can't >>> buy them anywhere. >>> >>> Most of mine was also digitised the hard way from vinyl or cassette years >>> ago, so it gets weird when the iTunes track has a slightly different title >>> (eg 'German remix version'). >>> >>> I didn't quite understand the Tangerine Dream story (glances over at my >>> copy of Ricochet). Do you mean you had it beforehand and then it got >>> 'reorganised'? >>> >>> I have definitely had iTunes/Music lose stuff, I suspect when I move >>> everything to a new computer. Entire albums disappear, or odd songs. I have >>> a separate non-destructive back-up folder that basically copies anything >>> that's ever in my Music folder. I go into it regularly, muttering 'I'm sure >>> I had this...'. 70% of the time I find it there (this also happened >>> recently with TV/Films when I finally moved everything over from my old >>> computer); thus the paranoia. >>> >>> Thanks for this. It does sound like my library is (fairly) safe;) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Jason >>> >>> On 3 Jan 2022, at 19:54, 'Stephen Watson' via Sussex Mac User Group wrote: >>> >>> Hi Jason, >>> >>> I’ve tried to replicate, as closely as I can, my entire CD and vinyl >>> collection on Apple Music and have mostly done it (despite >>> Apple’s/licencee’s efforts to thwart me 😐). >>> >>> Firstly, I’ve never had match or the equivalent to can’t speak for that. >>> >>> I have my entire music library downloaded onto my iPhone, but only my >>> library on my iPad and iMac, meaning that I can play anything on my iPhone >>> with no internet and I stream it on the other two. Mostly. >>> >>> The only difference is where Apple Music didn’t have the music I had which >>> meant I actually used Free Audacity to record the missing vinyl onto my Mac >>> and then uploaded it to Apple Music or bought the CD where possible and did >>> the same thing. You can upload your own music to the cloud and then stream >>> it to other devices which is what I do. >>> >>> You have to be a detective sometimes! I had three Tangerine Dreams albums >>> in my library when I first signed up. A month or so later I went to play >>> one only to find it wasn’t there 😬. What had happened was than Virgin had >>> put all the early TD albums on one mega-album and removed the original >>> albums. To get around this I then setup playlists for the “missing” albums >>> which allows me to treat them as albums in their own right instead of >>> “tracks 3 and 4 on the Early Years”. I can set my own cover art too! >>> >>> There are tracks you can buy, but cannot stream and there are definitely >>> some weird licensing issues for Apple Music but that is the way the music >>> companies roll I think, but it’s frustrating and never happened when I >>> owned the music (either physically or via iTunes). >>> >>> However, I now have 98% of all the music I’ve ever had on my phone to take >>> and listen to anywhere (including all my 7” singles) and it’s a small price >>> to pay for that. >>> >>> Happy to answer any questions if I can. >>> >>> Stephen >>> >>> You meet your destiny on the road you take to avoid it. ~ Carl Jung >>> >>>> On 3 Jan 2022, at 18:43, 'Jason Davies' via Sussex Mac User Group >>>> <smug@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi folks >>>> >>>> This is one of those 'surely this is easy but no one talks about it on the >>>> web' questions. I have a carefully collected music collection, mostly >>>> lossless, often rare and hard to replace. I've had Apple Match for years >>>> to get stuff on all devices and I've been wondering about signing up for >>>> Apple Music now that it's (sometimes) lossless but can't pin down what >>>> happens with the following: >>>> >>>> what happens to the music on my iphone (currently nynced only to the Mac)? >>>> Will it still be kept on the phone or it it all 'forced' to be streamed? >>>> The signal on my train journey is lousy so streaming is not an option. >>>> >>>> what happens to the library on my Mac? Is there still such a thing as 'my >>>> library' I can search within? >>>> >>>> can I still buy a song? I don't plat to use it for ever, just to see if >>>> the 'related' introduces me to more than my (lets be honest) 80s-focussed >>>> collection;) >>>> >>>> Grateful for any answers from those who've taken the plunge. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Jason >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Sussex Mac User Group" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to smug+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/smug/A1C0029D-5BD3-4C81-93BE-DF47E406D1A4%40me.com. >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Sussex Mac User Group" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to smug+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/smug/642B25EF-B9F6-4BAC-901D-B4E569FA0FAE%40icloud.com. >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Jason >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Sussex Mac User Group" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to smug+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/smug/0DFA4717-1714-4B5A-96E3-30C0074B34B5%40me.com. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Sussex Mac User Group" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to smug+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/smug/251CE924-7E89-417A-A55F-D2AF091B4532%40icloud.com. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Sussex Mac User Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to smug+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/smug/CAEjhqLTqP%3DER%3DYhH1BCvawuNF10Xk6rbkuu-uUsQeB3MLF7hOQ%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Sussex Mac User Group" group. 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