I didn't see it. I bet it was funny
though.
Dean gives the appearance of being
unhinged. I think his shouting match with the old guy at a debate hurt him
in Iowa.
Charles Mims
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Dean is a freak. That whole "rolling up his sleaves" thing is getting old.
He looked insane in his speech last night.
Now we will see how Kerry handles the heat. I tried to send a post
here the other day. I'm not sure it came through. A couple of mornings
ago I was watching FOX and they had footage of Kerry at a party in
someone's home. He was singing "puff the magic dragon" with one
of the original members of "Peter, Paul and Marry" . Kerry mocked
smoking a joint with his finger tips while singing. FOX showed it in a
loop so it looked like he was doing it over and over. I thought OK this
is going to be one of those things that we see over and over again
like Michael Jackson entering the police station in cuffs. I haven't
seen it since. I think FOX killed the story for some reason. Why? I
have no idea. Did anyone else see it? Maridyth is starting to think
I am crazy..... <G>
On Tuesday, January 20, 2004, at 06:51 AM, Jen -- wrote:
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Jen --
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DISASTER FOR DEAN IN IOWA
By DEBORAH ORIN, VINCENT MORRIS and BRIAN BLOMQUIST
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January 20, 2004 -- In an Iowa meltdown, Howard Dean got socked with a disastrous third-place finish last night, as John Kerry pulled off a stunning political comeback to win the first-in-the-nation Democratic contest for president.
Dean's collapse, combined with the combined surge of Sen. Kerry (Mass.) and Sen. John Edwards (N.C.), who finished second, threw the race wide open.
It also raised fresh questions about Dean's temperament when he launched into a screaming, clenched-teeth rant before his supporters after the vote count.
Anything less than a win in Iowa was a clear disappointment for longtime front-runner Dean, but the distant third-place finish was a huge blow.
With 98 percent of the vote counted in last night, Kerry led with 38 percent, Edwards was in second place with 32 percent, Dean had only 18 percent, and Richard Gephardt had 11 percent.
Rolling up his shirt sleeves and shrieking so loud that his voice cracked, a raging Dean rallied his supporters with forced optimism and a pugilistic tone that stood in contrast to the formal upbeat speeches by his opponents.
"I'll see you around the corner, around the block," Dean said, sounding like a bully taunting Kerry and Edwards, whom he'll face in the New Hampshire primary Tuesday.
Tim Harder
"He's crazy," said Republican pollster Frank Luntz after watching Dean's bizarre performance. "This is everything that voters don't want to hear from him. He's just lost the Democratic nomination for president. He's too hot."
Dean told his supporters, "We will not give up. We will not quit, now or ever. We have just begun to fight. We have just begun to fight."
The former Vermont governor remains the best-funded Democratic candidate in the race and has a large national organization. A poll yesterday showed him with an 8-point lead over retired general Wesley Clark in New Hampshire.
Kerry called himself "the comeback Kerry" and was ecstatic when he appeared before his supporters to claim a stunning victory.
"I told you I was learning along the way," Kerry told his crowd.
Edwards, whose candidacy was considered nearly dead a few weeks ago, came in a solid second, giving him strong momentum going into New Hampshire and then South Carolina, on Feb. 3, where he'll run as one of only two Southerners. (Clark is from Arkansas.)
Gephardt, whose union-backed effort was banking on a win in Iowa, came in fourth place and he promptly decided to drop out of the race, setting off a scramble among the other candidates to pick up his supporters.
A survey of caucus voters showed the breadth of Kerry's strength - he beat Dean even among anti-war voters, who were considered the former Vermont governor's political base.
Edwards' surprise strong showing gave his campaign a jolt of optimism.
"I'm having so much fun. I can't begin to tell you," Edwards said last night. "We were sort of the little engine that could."
Edwards was helped by Ohio's Dennis Kucinich, a minor candidate with single-digit support who told his supporters to back Edwards.
Voter turnout was huge - double what it was four years ago - and 46 percent told pollsters they were going into the caucuses for the first time.
Those newcomers were split evenly between Kerry and Dean - a surprise for Dean, who was counting on young, new voters to give him a win.
Kerry, a four-term senator who has made a strong effort to reach out to women, did well among voters who were looking for a candidate with the "right experience," while for Dean, the caucus was a failed first test of his campaign's ballyhooed Internet-driven campaign.
Voters seemed attracted to Edwards' charisma and his optimistic, positive campaign. He has made a name for himself by refusing to attack his opponents, and observers have seen a big improvement in his skills on the stump. But it was Dean who came into Iowa as the clear front-runner - he's campaigned in the state for nearly two years - but by the time last night's vote at 1,993 neighborhood caucuses was over, he was just another middle-of-the-pack wannabe.
His support began to collapse when he said capturing Saddam Hussein didn't make America any safer, and flubbed by saying he wouldn't "prejudge" Osama bin Laden's guilt in the 9/11 attacks.
Dean also wasn't helped by a confrontation at a recent debate with the Rev. Al Sharpton over his lack of minority Cabinet members when he was Vermont governor.
In the final days before the Iowa vote, the momentum shifted to Kerry, a Vietnam vet who appeared this week with a Green Beret whose life he saved, and Edwards, whose campaign events had an electric feel to them.
Last night also was a big blow to the political influence of labor unions. Dean and Gephardt had the backing of government unions and labor unions, respectively.
Dean, who has already faced questions about his appeal to black voters, wrapped up his two-year Iowa campaign with a visit to a Martin Luther King memorial that turned ugly when a mob of TV cameras swarmed the governor as he got off his campaign bus.
In recent days, he has increasingly attacked the media in a sign of frustration.
At the King event, Dean and his aides wandered around outside the building as reporters followed shouting questions - a cameraman fell backward and Dean swiped angrily at a microphone boom close to his face, snapping: "You guys are worse than New York [media] and that's saying a lot."
Charles Mims
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