Sam,

I didn't see a test for a 'null' return value (or null parameter). Did I
miss something ? Seems like
an interesting test case for interoperability ?

So, perhaps the best way to insure reasonable interoperability for now is
for the API to not
return null, but throw an exception (that translates to a SOAP Fault) ? Or
return a prespecified
instance of the object signifying the 'failure' condition ...

-john

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Ruby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: returning null object


> Chris Malley wrote:
> >
> > See the SOAP 1.2 spec at http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/WD-soap12-20010709.
> > As stated towards the end of Section 5.1:
> >
> >  "9. A NULL value or a default value MAY be represented by omission
> >  of the accessor element. A NULL value MAY also be indicated by
> >  an accessor element containing the attribute xsi:null with value
> >  '1' or possibly other application-dependent attributes and values."
> >
> > So the treatment of 'null' is left up to the implementation,
> > since "MAY" indicates that these are only suggestions.
> > I believe that Apache SOAP 2.2 takes the 'xsi:null' approach.
>
> You are correct.
>
> One ramification of this is that there is no way using the RPCProvider to
> get Apache SOAP 2.2 to omit the return element.  This may cause
> interoperability problems with other web services which do not expect to
> see a response.
>
> The RPCProvider in Apache xml-axis distinguishes between methods who are
> declared to return void, and methods who happen to return null in this one
> instance.
>
> If anyone listening is interested in interoperability issues, you might
> want to take a look at
> http://www.apache.org/~rubys/ApacheClientInterop.html and some of the web
> pages which it is linked to.  It has been an interesting journey.  I have
> found that sending only valid SOAP messages is not sufficient.  Nor is
> being able to consume every message that you can produce.  The harder
> problem is being able to produce messages to a required specification, and
> to consume every possible response.
>
> It appears that this journey is one that will take a while - exploring all
> of the edge cases and finding new nooks and cranies.
>
> - Sam Ruby
>
>

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