In a message dated 9/6/99 5:27:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << The OlyII is one of the best training aircraft available today. >> Ditto this! My first sailplane was an Astro Flight ASW 17, upon arriving at the local glider field I asked for help. The gentleman that greeted me (Stan Watson), gave me the best advise ever, he told me my first lesson was to take my ASW 17 home, put it in the closet and purchase an "OLY II." This turned out to be just what I needed, through the years I have built about 5 or 6 Oly's and to this day I still recommend this plane to any newcomer. Excellent plane! Keep Looking Up! Steve Mills RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]