Lemme tell you what I think--I have scanned and not digested all of the posts--I too can delete--this doesnt bother me. We have some folks with a wonderful sense of humor. Someone ended their post by saying that hawks could indeed loop--but when they couyld pull out and fly thru a burning loop--you had something. Another signed his post " Chief Looping Hawk " Gotta admit I sat here and laughed to myself. Then we got some sourpusses--come on--loosen up and enjoy the lighter side of life. We will get back to the sailplanes.. I love it!!! Jim RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]