Hi All Thanks for all the info and invites to fly. What other group would ask a total stranger to come and fly with them and share their favorite hill. The knowledge and camaraderie is just great. We do have our occasional squabble, but all in all, what a group! Good Luck and Good Lift Rich RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]