I just started up a page to access my planform modeling spreadsheet. It is saved in Excel version 3.0. There are only minor changes compared to the version that was available on my previous site. I did find an empirical formula for predicting control surface effects. There's a small input box near the control surface modeling area that you can use to help make correct control input values for a given control size (portion of local cord) and deflection. John Hazel http://homepage.av.com/johnhazel/downloads.html ______________________________________________________________ Open your mind. Close your wallet. Free Internet Access from AltaVista. http://www.altavista.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]