Titanium rods can be got from http://www.small-parts.com/ But you have to order their free catalogue first, which is well worth the effort IMO. It's full of techno-goodies. Carbon rods can be got from CST or ACP. See any model plane mag or http://acp-composites.com Jeb Bushell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]