heh, heh, perfect Rick. That really is the only solution. People can't be counted on to go easy on the equipment no matter how much pleading is done.
Don't forget to do the cardboard cut out of the CD for the complaints. This is essential. The other notable benefit is that we will all know where Gordy will be. ;-)
Mike
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Subject: Re: [RCSE] Line breakage and launching and costest management
- was Icon 2
From: Rick Bothell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, December 20, 2007 4:02 pm
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: soaring@airage.com
Thanks you Mike for suggesting a resistor. I just finished making 6 resistors for the CASL Phoenix contest in February for the sole purpose of making less powerful Ford Long Shaft winches. The winches will be less powerful than last years winches because of the many line breaks last year. The line breaks really slowed down the contest even though we had several experienced winch/retriever operators there to repair the lines. So, you people coming to Phoenix in February, start tapping the winch lines to get a feel for winches with resistors. Rick
Rick Bothell www.handsfreeretriever.com
On Thu Dec 20 11:38 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:
So guys, here is my take on the line break issue. It is very much like
the F3B style...of course.
The system that is breaking the lines is the motor power and line
strength combination. If you attached the line to a brick wall and hit
the switch the motors we use today will break all but the freshest,
unflawed lines.
So, what needs to be done for contest management is to inhibit (by
resistor) the power of the motors such that when stalled they can't
break a line that is 80% of its nominal strength. Then, as contest
director, you say to the contestants "go ahead, full pedal the suckers,
you only get so much power anyway". I mean seriously, why should the
contest managers cater to anyone. Set the rules, set up the equipment
so that is reliable and idiot proof, and invite contestants.
You might want to add a complaint department, or committee to your
staff, but this should be easily accomplished by strategically placing a
cardboard cutout or the CD way off in the far corner of the field so
complaning parties can get their frustrations out without the rest of us
having to hear about it :-)
There you go. THE PERFECT SOLUTION.
Respectfully submitted,
Mike Smith
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Subject: Re: [RCSE] Icon 2
From: "Darwin N. Barrie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, December 20, 2007 11:16 am
To: "Joe Rodriguez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <soaring@airage.com>
Come on Joe, we've been saying this for years and it hasn't worked. See
my other post for the direct issues.
Darwin
On Dec 20, 2007, at 9:40 AM, Joe Rodriguez wrote:
Don't change the line " Learn how to launch " If you go big and break
the line!! fly it out!! You launch on the same equipment that everyone
else is using, no need to change equipment for the select few " Learn to
launch "
and besides who says bigger is better(-: Airbus is sure having a tough
time.
smokinjoe
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From: Darwin N. Barrie
To: soaring@airage.com ; SC Johnson
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:48 AM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Icon 2
I'm sure this will be a very dynamic plane and competitive with the Euro
models. My concern is the launching equipment. With the current crop of
moldies, line breaks and winch bogging and ultimate failure are becoming
more prevelant. Heavy enough line for these new "super ships," will be
a burden for the lighter planes. Yes, I've CD'd lots of contests and a
few big ones.
We've tried some heavy line and it is great for the heavier planes but
the lighter planes and 2 meters have a helluva time overcoming the line
drag and weight.
Where do we draw the line?
Darwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ
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From: SC Johnson
To: soaring@airage.com
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 6:08 AM
Subject: [RCSE] Icon 2
OK all you sailplane junkies (Edgar, DP, you know who you are...) -
there's been a lot of discussion about the new High End and some vague
comparisons to the "old" Icon. Since Don has even stopped denying it, I
thought its about time for some news about the new Icon 2 that Maple
Leaf Design is developing. Its been in the works for over a year, and
news has been leaking for a while. Get in line folks - this is gonna be
a biggy, both literally and figuratively. Designed by the intrepid Dr.
Mark Drela, this new high aspect ratio F3J/Thermal Duration plane has a
wing span of 150" (3.81 m) and a VERY slender 2.4 friendly pod and
carbon boom. I have had the privilege of fondling the parts and pieces
as the design was developed, and I can tell you that this plane is
way-cool. The first prototypes of the Icon 2 are being tested as I type
this, and the first production planes (mine - VBG) will be delivered
just after the first of the year. I understand there's already a list.
No - I don't have photos or drawings.....and leave Don alone - he's busy
working on my planes. Just get on the list.....
Whahooo...
Steve Johnson
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