Good Morning Folks!
I Not so sure that it is a record, however, Gordy either starts the year or 
ends the year in contorversy!  
Go figure.
Some of us in the Mid west and south of Michigian, that organize "Big" 
Contests, 
Like the Nats,  and on the club level, before the libs took over, have been 
pondering this very issue.
And it could be a real issue,
In the days past we would set matraces to "Help" protect the contestant, with 
the exception of the stupid turn on and shoot down.
I have been flying for 40 years and I have seen more than my share of shoot 
downs, wether it be a contest OR just plain club flying stupid always shows up 
at the field.

2.4g for me, is very exciting, can't wait till I get one, however, I am not in 
a real big rush. 
My 72 Mhz, Airtronics, Mpx 4000, and JR 9303 Stuff works very well, My Futuba 
stuff is in a box in the corner,
and I can afford to sit back and watch what shakes out of the whole mixture.

I Think that Gordy is right, more testing should have been done by the 
manufracturers, internally, or at least by the  Technical Director of the AMA, 
who assisted in the blessing of  of the system.
Intermodulation and Noise issues previously mentioned, should be of a real 
concern!

As always, this stuff will get hacked out on the "Competion" circuit(s), just 
as many of the designs for our sailplanes and improvements for our end of the 
hobby have. 
That way, he who contests not, can express major opinions on just how and why 
the industry should or should not react to the given situtation.

I suspect that more people are on this issue than we know about.

Good Thread Gordy, and Yes, I have had my New License for a month or so...

Merry Merry, and Happy, Happy


--
Jack Strother   
Granger, IN 
        
LSF 2948        
LSF Level V  #117
LSF Official 1996 - 2004
CSS Gold



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Okay I expected the guesses and opinions and assurances.
 
Let's take this one first:
 But, seriously, are you expecting over 40 sailplanes to be in the air at
one time at a typical club field?
 
Those who posted this implied 'everything will be okay' rationale don't attend big events where the problem has never been a conflict of planes in the air, we have clips and impounds and channel assignments for those.  The guys who have 2.4 fell in love with them especially because they didn't "have to worry about pins, clips and impounds any more" . Now you can just pull up put your plane together, turn on and fly...even on Visalia Friday.  There is a lot more than 50 guys with sailplanes wanting to fly, assemble, program etc on any given major contest day. On is on, regardless of if the models are in the air.
 
ON means transmissions.  How is the CD gonna handle 2.4 count and amounts when their owners feel they are safe to turn on at any time?  Back to pins on this time they represent count instead of freq channel?  1 thru 39?
 
The next one that I didn't see addressed is the 'mixing' part...what happens when you have Futa, Xtreme, Spectrum, Airtronics, and the Chinese show up together...regardless of numbers.
 
Then there is this one:  Ed asked :"Why don't you organize a test "
Why would I?  My hobby is to build and fly sailplanes, my job is to sell beach cleaners. Ed, why don't you ask the suppliers of 2.4 stuff to work for their pay?  Why haven't you? You post assurances and promote as if you have some cash interest in 2.4.  You repeat hearsay about a heli event with 500  pilots and then guess at how many TX's were turned on at the time, using it as some 'proof' that the deal is done.  Do you have a clue as to how much parking alone it would take to host 500 pilots?  I think before repeating that 'proof' you might want to investigate it instead of just repeating it.  I know the source, that doesn't make it valid.  Are you going to tell me that less than 40 guys had their TX's on all at once with 500 on the field?
 
So far at best 2.4 sort of works, if the install is just right, if the models materials are cooperative and 'should' work fine with other 2.4 systems..as long as their aren't too many TX's on at one time....but no one has come up with control system to protect against or even determine who will be turning on in the pits.
 
So what's the skinny....how many of you realized that it is possible to be shot down with 2.4, that less than our current 50 TX's can be running at once and no one is too sure about how many of a mix of brand systems are safe?

Was just wondering that's all :-)?
 
Gordy
Glenwood Springs Co
 
 




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