The Sharon?  Where are they in this  list?
 
Its not on the list because of its weight...but its a F3J list.  Not a  TD 
list, it got off the F3J list because of the need for late evening fast tow  
times.. Out of all the planes I own, you'd have to pry my Sharon from my dying  
hands before I'd give it up for TD. :-)
Gordy 
Milwaukee tonite.



In a message dated 7/1/2008 2:36:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Chris,

That's more public info on one page than I've seen in  awhile, and you want
more :-)  I think your analogy to Formula 1 is a  good one.  I'd bet that 95%
of all glider guiders could not tell a  difference between the top planes,
especially given varying conditions when  they would be flying the plane.

The old sales trick of hooking up a  glider into a thermal and then passing
the transmitter is always  effective.  "Man, this thing flies great!"

I've flown many of the  designs listed and the differences between each one
are not  pronounced.  A Supra and a Perfect you can tell, but when they  are
ballasted to the same wing loading it gets a little murkier.  The  Experience
and the Perfect are really close, as is the Aspire (maybe a bit  more float).

The Espada is slippery, a little quicker in getting back  from downwind but
it like to be flown slightly faster due to the planform  and airfoil.

Like I said, the differences are not that pronounced and  the decision at the
top of the launch is WAY more important than the  plane.  Still the guys who
are there have made their decision on what  plane they like based on their
own preferences.  But it's not like  that formula stays true forever.
Remember the Icon?  The Sharon?   Where are they in this list?

JE
--
Erickson Architects
John R.  Erickson, AIA


> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date:  Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:02:13 -0700
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc:  Soaring@airage.com
> Subject: RE: [RCSE] "Could CD's Please Collect  Plane's Flown By Whom?....
> 
> Gordy,
> 
> As a  designer, I look at the overall list as more of a Manufacturer's
>  advertising list.  Think about it, each plane costs over $2500 to  have
> in flying condition, and each is like a Formula 1/Indy racer in  it's own
> regard.
> 
> For information on planes, I would  be interested in 3 views (probably
> already available), weights,  airfoils, etc.  However, are any of the
> planes "Original  Designs"?  DP mentioned he was building a moldie a
> while back,  and I was looking forward to hearing of it's results.
> 
> Are the  planes so close in performance that differences do not matter?
>  
> Years ago, F3B Worlds used to distribute data on ships, new  approaches
> to old problems etc.  I compiled a DVD back in 2001 of  IHLGF data and it
> was distributed.  I an going to the German Open  and home to take alot of
> pictures because how we address design issues  for US conditions is alot
> different from the design conditions in  Europe.
> 
> I would love to see more regarding planes, setups,  etc.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
>> -------- Original Message  --------
>> Subject: [RCSE] "Could CD's Please Collect Plane's Flown  By
>> Whom?....Thanks!  (F3J World Planes)
>> From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Date: Tue, July 01, 2008 3:40 am
>> To:  Soaring@airage.com
>> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>  _http://www.f3x.no/f3j/2008/models08.htm_
>>  (http://www.f3x.no/f3j/2008/models08.htm)
>> 
>> Here's  the  kind of list that we have all dreamed would be posted   after
>> every USA TD contest ever held in history! :-).
>>  
>> Take a look guys, it will show you whats considered hot in F3J  right
>> now...or at least what was available :-).
>>  Gordy
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