My friend Big Herb got a duck in the late 80s. I designed the "12 Gauge" to shoot down Herb's duck. Can't remember if I ever killed that duck, but I did win the RES at Ft. Myers,Fla. this past Sat with it. That's more than Gordy ever did at Ft. Myers. Brian Smith RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]