....................snip ......You're gonna get that big scary lump of lead that's been lurking in the bottom of your toolbox waiting for JUST such a day, and your're gonna strap that sucker on just a couple of yibbits forward of the CG so you change the balance AND ballast the living bleepers out of your sloper IN ONE CRUDE SIMPLE STEP (blasphemy! heresy!). Then you're gonna give it two clicks of up elevator and a quick prayer to the wind gods and you're gonna heave your frankenstinian creation out there with everything you've got and just DEAL with it! Then you're gonna grin wide as you see your plane bombing around faster than you EVER thought it could go!! Now you're having too much fun to care about learning ANYTHING!! Lift, Scobie in Seattle. Nice post. You gotta love a "Whooowheee its windy!" kind of day... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]