Congrats to Arend, Larry, and John. It sounds like another endorsement of flying Man-on-Man, (seeded or otherwise). Man-on-Man still is "the" way to bring out the best in fliers and the winners. It is too bad that more contests cannot use the format. Marc Gellart, Lima, OH Watch for details about the premier Labor Day Weekend Man-on-Man contest in Muncie, IN, the LOFT/OVSS Fall Round Up coming soon. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]