Hi Richard. . .your lengthy and educated analysis below Illustrates how
complex getting the best geometry for the conventional servo/output
arm/clevis/threaded rod/keeper/setnuts can really be and what all the
considerations must be to best achieve the intended results. 

Truly, the RDS simplifies surface movement. It works beautifully. As an
engineer it should immediately capture your fancy. See
http://www.proptwisters.org/rds2/ and especially look over the revealing
analysis by space engineer Steve Fujikawa. A whole new world in RC control
awaits those who will take some time to learn about this system. 

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> From: Richard Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [RCSE] RE:Hey you Geometry Brains, question about servo
mounting
> Date: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 11:20 AM
> 
> Hello Gordy
> Burying your servo deeper (higher) into the wing raises the front end of
the pushrod, causing the pushrod angle to change. To get
> exactly the same servo/control surface action as if the servo were flush
to the bottom of the wing you should rotate the control
> horn mounting through the same angle, rotating about the centre of the
hinge, so that the angle between the pushrod and the line of
> holes in the horn (which should point at the hinge pin) remains the same.
> 
> But that's if you had optimised the pushrod/horn angle in the first
place. (aileron horns and output arms pointing forwards,
> backwards for the flap horns and arms, and fine tuned) The worst case
would be with a deep section wing and short pushrods. With a
> shallow molded wing the pushrod angle would probably change very little,
causing no measurable change, the way most modellers fit
> their gear. You may be a perfectionist though.
> 
> I'm sitting late at work designing a self-dumping wheeled loader bucket
system, rotating hydraulic cylinders and their lines of
> action all over the place on CAD, so I guess this discussion is kinda
pertinent to me at the moment. :-)
> 
> Regards
> Richard Knott
> 
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> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > In a message dated 6/6/00 1:19:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Raschow
writes:
> >  << How does it affect the throw and power of the servos, both having
the
> > same
> >   two hole arm and the wing is about 1" deep.  the flap horn about 1/2"
high?
> > >>
> >
> >  Not at all - length of servo arm and length of flap horn to the hinge
are
> > what are important - these don't change with which skin is used for
anchoring
> > the servo. >>
> > Thanks for you comments,
> >
> > Since I have done so many foam cores and the servos end up flush with
the
> > bottom, I assumed that it was the 'correct' way to mount them.  But
lots of
> > guys with moldies seem to be just gluing the servo to the top skin,
deep
> > inside the wing.  They still just use the 2 hole horn.
> >
> > Math isn't my thing, so I figured I would ask some of the engineer
types out
> > there.
> >
> > Anyway, I have been shimming my servos in the moldies to bring them
flush
> > with the bottom skin like my bagged ships figuring that was the
'correct'
> > thing to do.
> >
> > To me it seems like the servo mounted in deep would be pulling against
the
> > hinge line, trying to pull the flap service forward into the wing,
instead of
> > up in a rotation.
> >
> > What do you think?
> > Gordy
> 
> 
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