Kai, the first thing you need to do is check out RCOnline.net (this is _not_ RCO here in USA) at http://www.rconline.net/cgi-forum/Ultimate.cgi?action=intro&BypassCookie=true . This is a German-language site for RC Modelling, and they have an active and very competent Sailplane forum. I've learned a lot just lurking there (I read enough German to follow the discussions). They also have an English-language section that they are trying to get of the ground. Do visit! --Bill On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 21:45:17 -0500 Pat McCleave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Gang, While out flying tonight we had a spectator walk up who happened to be a Corporate Jet Pilot who was in Wichita for Citation 3 training. We let him have a go at the sticks and he was immediately hooked. His name is Kai Ovelgoenne and he lives in Leinfelden Germany. He can be contacted via email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . He would really appreciate some local area flyers contacting him to help in getting started. He will be back in Germany sometime around the middle of next week. Thanks in advance for your help. See Ya, Pat McCleave Wichita, KS Ps, BTW he did real well on the sticks. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]