Chris Gregg writes: >but trouble on the downwind leg. Remember to the plane(s) there is no such thing as an "upwind" or "downwind" leg. The towpilot is most likely slowing the plane down on the downwind leg, since from a ground-speed perspective the plane appears to speed up when travelling down-wind. Let it! It has to! >lider would go low behind the >owplane and start whipping from side to side. That would be the wake. Ether climb above it or drop below it, or even fly out to the sides. The side to side weave is a classic "figure eight" caused by bouncing from one tip vortice to the other, most likely. With practice it is possible to "box" the wake, flying all ther way around it, pull up through it or drop down through it at will. Just don't stay in it. >towplane would stall and See first paragraph. Fly faster. Hope this helps! John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]