Joel Well said buddy. About time someone put a stop to all this carping on the net. I get a feeling that if Sal was as much of a bastard as some would have us believe, he would not be taking this sort of thing constantly but would have either shut down or sued for libel before now. I've never met the guy but whenever I've dealt with him by phone from the UK he has been friendly, professional and has delivered my order when he said he would, what more can one ask. I'm not paying the guy to be smarmy and falsely friendly like some game show host, I just want the product that he advertises when he says he will deliver and in good condition, something that over the last few years he has managed admirably. Regards Dave In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Joel A. Foner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >I don't know about the other participants in this group (a thousand or so?), >but I am really tired of all the incessant noise on this topic, and I am no >longer going to remain silent. I have expected a list monitor to shut this >stuff down for a long time, but it seems 'that ain't gonna happen', so now >I'm going to say my piece. Feel free to delete this message, and if you >feel the need to delete it I sincerely offer my apologies for wasting your >time - I am writing this in the hope that some of the right people read it, >and I would have emailed them all individually but I haven't kept a running >list of their email addresses. > >It seems to me that all that can be said, has been said, on all sides of >this issue, over and over again. If you have personal issues with Sal or >NSP, or any other vendor for that matter, I for one believe that they have >no place in this forum. Slinging mud, exaggerations and insults are not >fact-based, are just plain not nice, and are actions that don't reflect well >on anyone involved (how's this for saying this carefully?). > >"Always" and "never" are pretty loaded comments, and when you take a minute >to think about them - they're fairly impossible to believe as truth. No one >is always good, always horrible or never good or never horrible. Each >person has their own experiences, and makes their own decisions as to who >they trust with their business. > >Slamming a vendor in public to get their attention isn't a good way to get >issues resolved. It is a good way to blow off some adrenaline, and may be >better than throwing something through the window. At the same time it does >get a lot of people ticked about having to watch the dirty laundry parade, >and doesn't reflect well on the person who started slinging the fish around. > >I for one did not join this list to be a stand-in for Judge Judy, or Judge >Wopner, the Better Business Bureau or anyone else. I joined the list to be >able to learn more about soaring and contribute whenever I can offer >something useful. > >If you have ever been in business, you end up realizing that no matter who >you are, and how well-meaning your efforts, and no matter how well you do in >general, it is inevitable that once in a while client relationships will not >work out - sometimes due to things under your control, and sometimes due to >things outside your control. This is a risk of owning a business - and our >job as business owners is to try to have things work out in as many cases as >humanly possible. If you get what you want from a vendor relationship, then >by all means keep the relationship. If you have a major issue with a vendor, >do what it takes to get the issue resolved and then buy somewhere else. >What's so hard about this? > >I am also on another list, in another area of RC, where there's a helicopter >products distributor that gets lashed at every opportunity. Unlike what >people have said in that forum, I have found their service to be good, found >them to be fair, and always received products on time and at the quoted >price. Funny thing is that this vendor is always getting publicly lambasted >for being rude, ignorant, 'always' cheating 'everyone' and on and on. I >guess 'always' is not always, eh? > >Can we please get back to soaring? > >Thanks and sorry for ranting on this, but I'm just fed up with this stuff >and wish that it would go away - this isn't a vendor gripes chat room last >time I checked. > >Regards, > >Joel > >RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and >"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- dave RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
