Hey now, I've been reading about this problem for a couple of days now and I guess I sould put in my two cents worth. How about using a soldering gun? you can change the wire bit to a cheese slicer shape like a mini hot wire. That'll cut right through it. I have to break epoxy joints often, and heat is the best way I've yet found. RobII *'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.*'`'*.,.* [EMAIL PROTECTED] Erica Frank & Rob Carter II "I believe in nothing; everything is sacred. I believe in everything; nothing is sacred." --The Chink RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]