Another magic flying device, and one that appears not to have been discussed recently: http://www.rhone.ch/winggrid/index.htm Has anyone tried a wing grid? Looks iffy to me but you never know. Lots of impressive technical whathaveyou on the web site. Jeb Bushell Newtown Square, PA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]