Stefan, That's what I used to hold my Hi-start. (It's still around here somewhere.) Our soil here in Illinois is usually soft enough, and this allows installation with no hammer. A longer spike and hammer usually are not practical to carry. Steve At 09:05 AM 12/17/2000 +0100, Stefan Smets wrote: >The other day, I found back in my garage two steel pins, about 1.4 feet >long, with the form of a corkscrew and a ring on top, that were meant to >keep my Siberian Huskies from running away when on vacation. Over here, they >can be bought in any pet-shop. Wouldn't these things be a lot better then >straight pins to keep a hi-start in place ? Steve Meyer http://SOARchicago.com/stmeyer/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] S.O.A.R. Web Page http://SOARchicago.com/ Now with Message Boards http://SOARchicago.com/discus/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]