In a message dated 1/15/01 2:41:45 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Dudes, What's the thinnest rod you've used to hold down a pulley? (snip) TIA Dennis >> Dennis, This, on course, depends on the soil conditions. Around the Denver area, we use a 3/8" x 12" stake without any problem. Lenny Keer RMSA, Colorado RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]