As a newcomer to this sport (15 months) it is with dismay that I noticed the posts of Larry Jolly, aired by his choice in a public forum. I understand that he is a very talented pilot. Our sport has many talented pilots like most sports have their athletes. What we need from my little observation are more quiet ambassadors for our sport, people who give time, energy and instruction back into the sport while also representing our country in a way that will make all of us proud. >From this distance Joe appears to be all that and so much more. In fairness to Larry, whom I have never met, I don't know much except the postings speak volumes. I will keep an open mind tho and hope this venting of some grudge clears the air. Now why don't u both agree to settle the issue of competition and beating each other on the undisputed king of difficult and ability testing courses? A man on man DS race at Parker, 5 rounds, no throwouts? Loser eats true crow? Spectator fees to watch this matchup will be donated to agreed on team causes. Further words on the exchange are hardly the way to go. Barry Baskin (Walnut Creek) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 10:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: Opinions (response to last weeks post) Joe, I prefer to let this post die a Happy death. My opinions are my own. For your information what started that post was Sal's maligning the Europeans. The fact of the matter is that he stated that you now had the ultimate F3J Toy, and Daryl had the ultimate TD Toy and also the next F3B winner. Just for the record you must know about that post from Sal after all you found mine. But with out that reference you can stick to attacking me ,right.So Joe how can Sal make those statements, they are not fact. Your model has never been in an F3J meet, and Daryl's Super Fletcher hasn't even got the molds polished out yet. That was blatant self promotion for SAl and his boys and is not factual. Don't you ever get self righteous and condemn me for being part of the old F3B wars. It was your club not mine that started the barrage of Techno advantage wars in that game. As far as a friendlier group involved now, is that what you call that little bit of Rules twisting you, and your Win at any costs team mates pulled at the last team trials. You guys cheated and your little philosophical comment about fighting it out in the air made me laugh out loud. Your buddy Daryl even got so blatant as to say that if Randy had been the CD he wouldn't have got away with it. Got away with what? I thought what you guys did was legal, right. No, Joe, it is you with the problem not me. The fact is that you and Daryl treat people poorly, it is true that Daryl is far more of a user than you are. I know that I am on your list and that when the chips go don't fall in my favor that you will secretly chuckle at my score. The simple fact is that after years of experience with you and Daryl I prefer not to be a friend. Personally I find you people contrary to the way I want, to live my life. I wish you the best, but do not support you in any of your endeavors. If there is a competition that I can use my limited abilities to compete against you, I will. Since all you live for is the challenge of the hunt it means so much more when I read Jolly in front of Wurts. I am not taking any abuse from you, if you want to go public, bring it on. Larry RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]